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From: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: "Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Abdiel Janulgue" <abdiel.janulgue@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@kernel.org>,
	"Onur Özkan" <work@onurozkan.dev>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
	"Zhi Wang" <zhiw@nvidia.com>,
	nova-gpu@lists.linux.dev, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, driver-core@lists.linux.dev,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] rust: dma: rename dma_handle to dma_address
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2026 00:51:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DKNDA8NXFQA7.1YHQZF8XDP83D@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DKNBM5C0CWIL.1Y659FEPPM2G0@kernel.org>

On Wed Aug 12, 2026 at 11:32 PM BST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Fri Aug 7, 2026 at 3:04 PM CEST, Gary Guo wrote:
>> On Wed Aug 5, 2026 at 9:39 PM BST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>>> On Wed Aug 5, 2026 at 1:32 PM CEST, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>>> To be fair, that is sort of the intent in the C API as well, to be clear 
>>>> that DMA addresses must not simply be treated as physical addresses, and 
>>>> aren't necessarily address-like in general e.g. comparing two 
>>>> dma_handles is pretty meaningless, since they could have different 
>>>> values but still refer to the same underlying memory, or vice-versa. 
>>>> Adding or subtracting offsets within the bounds of the original 
>>>> allocation/mapping size is pretty much the only arithmetic that _is_ valid.
>>>
>>> Yes, I did suggest a dma::Range type [1] for this purpose, such that only this
>>> kind arithmetic is possible to do.
>>>
>>> The dma::Range type should have a method returning its embedded raw value which
>>> then can be used to program registers etc.
>>>
>>> This patch is only an intermediate step, that clarifies that intent of the
>>> current usage of dma_handle() (or now dma_address()), which is not to serve as a
>>> handle.
>>
>> I suppose with I/O projections now it's rarer that people need to operate on dma
>> address directly? What do you envison as the use case for `dma::Range`?
>>
>> Also, I suppose we can also represent dma address ranges as `Io` views that does
>> not implement any accessor methods, so projection still works on them.
>
> Yes, that covers most cases. What about SGEntry cases and CoherentHandle?
>
> For instance, in nova-core we currently have
>
> 	for sg_entry in sg_table.iter() {
> 	    let num_pages = usize::from_safe_cast(sg_entry.dma_len()).div_ceil(GSP_PAGE_SIZE);
> 	    for i in 0..num_pages {
> 	        let entry = sg_entry.dma_address()
> 	            + (u64::from_safe_cast(i) * u64::from_safe_cast(GSP_PAGE_SIZE));
> 	        dst.extend_from_slice(&entry.to_le_bytes(), GFP_KERNEL)?;
> 	    }
> 	}
>
> which could become
>
> 	for sg_entry in sg_table.iter() {
> 	    sg_entry.dma_range().for_each_block(GSP_PAGE_SIZE, |addr| {
> 	        dst.extend_from_slice(&addr.to_le_bytes(), GFP_KERNEL)
> 	    })?;
> 	}

If we have `DmaRange<T>: IoBase` and `fn dma_address() -> DmaRange<[u8]>`
then you could imagine doing

    io_project!(sg_entry.dma_range(), [panic: i * GSP_PAGE_SIZE..]).address()

A caveat is that it's slightly tricky to implement `IoBase` for `DmaRange` due
to the ptr_metadata feature being unstable... That said, this could be worked
around.

Best,
Gary

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-12 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-05  5:01 [PATCH v2 0/3] gpu: nova-core: falcon: use I/O projections for DMA transfers Alexandre Courbot
2026-08-05  5:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] gpu: nova-core: falcon: remove unnecessary check Alexandre Courbot
2026-08-05  7:02   ` Ethan Plant
2026-08-05  5:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] rust: dma: rename dma_handle to dma_address Alexandre Courbot
2026-08-05 11:32   ` Robin Murphy
2026-08-05 20:39     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-07 13:04       ` Gary Guo
2026-08-12 22:32         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-12 23:51           ` Gary Guo [this message]
2026-08-06 21:16   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-05  5:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] gpu: nova-core: falcon: use I/O projection to check transfer bounds Alexandre Courbot
2026-08-06 21:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] gpu: nova-core: falcon: use I/O projections for DMA transfers Danilo Krummrich

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