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From: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	"Uladzislau Rezki" <urezki@gmail.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@kernel.org>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Onur Özkan" <work@onurozkan.dev>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	nova-gpu@lists.linux.dev, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] rust: alloc: add Vec::push_init
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2026 13:08:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DKSWQA542X58.3N48L8WCDBJR0@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DKSVRS7UAL9U.3RUTW74RVSEHQ@kernel.org>

On Wed Aug 19, 2026 at 12:23 PM BST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Mon Aug 17, 2026 at 2:56 PM CEST, Eliot Courtney wrote:
>> +    pub fn push_init<E>(&mut self, init: impl Init<T, E>, flags: Flags) -> Result<(), E>
>> +    where
>> +        E: From<AllocError>,
>
> This signature rejects impl Init<T, Infallible>, which is the reason why we have
> e.g. Box::init() and Box::try_init() with different fallible signatures.
>
> So, if we follow InPlaceInit, it'd be
>
> 	pub fn push_init<E>(&mut self, init: impl Init<T, E>, flags: Flags) -> Result<(), Error>
> 	where
> 	    Error: From<E>;
>
> and
>
> 	pub fn try_push_init<E>(&mut self, init: impl Init<T, E>, flags: Flags) -> Result<(), E>
> 	where
> 	    E: From<AllocError>;
>
> In theory we could also simplify it to
>
> 	pub fn push_init(&mut self, init: impl Init<T>, flags: Flags) -> Result<(), AllocError>
>
> and
>
> 	pub fn try_push_init<E>(&mut self, init: impl Init<T, E>, flags: Flags) -> Result<(), E>
> 	where
> 	    E: From<AllocError>,
>
> However, InPlaceInit actually achieves more with the init() and try_init()
> distinction:
>
>   What init() accepts, but try_init() does not accept:
>     - impl Init<T, Infallible>
>     - impl Init<T, E> where Error: From<E> but NOT E: From<AllocError>
>
>   What try_init() accepts, but init() does not accept:
>     - impl Init<T, E> where E: From<AllocError> but NOT Error: From<E>
>
> So, with the simplification we'd technically lose out on the
>
> 	impl Init<T, E> where Error: From<E> but NOT E: From<AllocError>
>
> case.
>
> In any case, init() and try_init() seem a bit mixed up on their purpose
> regarding fallibility and error type strategy, but in order to really cover all
> cases I think it is necessary.

This is one of the reasons that I suggest the entry-like API. This way the
reserve and the push are separate operation and with their own failure mode.
`reserve` can only fail with `AllocError` and push can only fail with whatever
the error the initializer can fail.

The most simple case of just reserving one element:

    vec.reserve_one()?.push(fallible_init)?;

the only requirement then becomes `E: From<AllocError>` and `E: From<InitError>`
where `E` is the error type in function signature, bypassing this unification
issue.

Best,
Gary

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-19 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-17 12:56 [PATCH 0/6] gpu: nova-core: add NVKV codec Eliot Courtney
2026-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 1/6] rust: alloc: add Vec::push_init Eliot Courtney
2026-08-17 14:02   ` Gary Guo
2026-08-19  7:43     ` Eliot Courtney
2026-08-19 10:49       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-19 11:23   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-19 12:08     ` Gary Guo [this message]
2026-08-19 12:14     ` Gary Guo
2026-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 2/6] gpu: nova-core: add NVKV encoder Eliot Courtney
2026-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 3/6] gpu: nova-core: add NVKV decoder Eliot Courtney
2026-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 4/6] gpu: nova-core: add NVKV typed encoding Eliot Courtney
2026-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 5/6] gpu: nova-core: add NVKV typed decoding Eliot Courtney
2026-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 6/6] gpu: nova-core: add NVKV GSP_INIT schemas Eliot Courtney

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