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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Vincenzo Palazzo" <vincenzopalazzodev@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/5] rust: sync: Arc: Introduces ArcInner::count()
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 08:51:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9vqJ1h2nkaFRpOY@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9viM2POUsSnbKUh@kroah.com>

On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 05:17:55PM +0100, Greg KH wrote:
[...]
> > > > But there are correct ways to use a refcount, e.g. if you own
> > > > `Arc` and `.count()` returns 1, then you know that you are the
> > > > exclusive owner of the `Arc` and nobody else is going to touch it.
> > > 
> > > But you should never know this, as it is not relevant.
> > > 
> > > So no, please don't allow printing out of a reference count, that will
> > > only cause problems and allow people to think it is safe to do so.
> > > 
> > 
> > People already do it, even in *security* code,
> > 
> > security/keys/keyring.c:
> > 
> > 	int key_link(struct key *keyring, struct key *key)
> > 	{
> > 		...
> > 		kenter("{%d,%d}", keyring->serial, refcount_read(&keyring->usage));
> > 		...
> > 	}
> > 
> > Should we fix that?
> 
> Yes.  But really, that's debugging code, it probably should all be
> removed now.
> 

Well, there are also printings in proc_keys_show() and
proc_key_users_show() in security/keys/proc.c, and I think it's hard to
remove these since they are userspace related.

Anyway I realise I could have done a better job explaining what I'm
doing here:

I want to read refcount in a later patch, which make Arc<T> implement
Debug trait/interface, and that allows user to print Arc<T> for debug
purposes, e.g.

	pr_info!("{:#x?}", a); // a is an "Arc<T">

that's the only usage of the reading from refcount. I could open code an
FFI call in that implementation, but I thought maybe I could add a
helper function, hence the "count" function. And since "count" is a
private function, so no one can use it outside this
rust/kernel/sync/arc.rs file, therefore mis-usage by outsiders are
impossible.

Maybe I made things confusing because I just learned the language and
wanted to try out a few things which made things complicated (for
review), hope the above explanation undo some of the confusion I
created.

As I said, I'm open to remove the printing of the refcount, and if you
and Peter think maybe it's OK to do that after the explanation above,
I will improve the patch to make things clear ;-)

Regards,
Boqun

> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-02 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-01 23:22 [RFC 0/5] rust: sync: Arc: Implement Debug and Display Boqun Feng
2023-02-01 23:22 ` [RFC 1/5] rust: sync: impl Display for {Unique,}Arc Boqun Feng
2023-02-02 14:15   ` Gary Guo
2023-02-02 16:50   ` Björn Roy Baron
2023-02-04 10:20   ` Finn Behrens
2023-02-04 18:47   ` Vincenzo Palazzo
2023-02-01 23:22 ` [RFC 2/5] rust: sync: Arc: Introduces ArcInner::count() Boqun Feng
2023-02-02  9:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-02 13:46     ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-02 14:21     ` Gary Guo
2023-02-02 15:41       ` Greg KH
2023-02-02 16:10         ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-02 16:17           ` Greg KH
2023-02-02 16:51             ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2023-02-02 21:47               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-02-03  5:22                 ` Greg KH
2023-02-03  7:25                   ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-03  7:38                     ` Greg KH
2023-02-03  7:43                       ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-03  8:01                       ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-03 19:17                       ` Josh Stone
2023-02-03 19:22                         ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-02-02 14:22   ` Gary Guo
2023-02-04 18:48   ` Vincenzo Palazzo
2023-02-01 23:22 ` [RFC 3/5] rust: sync: Arc: Introduces Arc::get_inner() helper Boqun Feng
2023-02-02 14:24   ` Gary Guo
2023-02-02 16:53   ` Björn Roy Baron
2023-02-04 18:51   ` Vincenzo Palazzo
2023-02-01 23:22 ` [RFC 4/5] rust: sync: impl Debug for {Unique,}Arc Boqun Feng
2023-02-02 14:28   ` Gary Guo
2023-02-03 19:46     ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-04 18:56   ` Vincenzo Palazzo
2023-02-01 23:22 ` [RFC 5/5] sample: rust: print: Add sampe code for Arc printing Boqun Feng
2023-02-02 16:56   ` Björn Roy Baron
2023-02-04 10:22   ` Finn Behrens
2023-02-04 19:05   ` Vincenzo Palazzo

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