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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Abdiel Janulgue" <abdiel.janulgue@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, daniel.almeida@collabora.com,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Valentin Obst" <kernel@valentinobst.de>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	airlied@redhat.com,
	"open list:DMA MAPPING HELPERS" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 2/3] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 11:37:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z5dh6cSnNxwbefJX@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLgjL0aGGwkjEfXH08Jopwin1NfkLzp9vQWKcHPEum8jV4g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 08:27:36AM +0100, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 11:43 AM Abdiel Janulgue
> <abdiel.janulgue@gmail.com> wrote:
> > +    /// Reads data from the region starting from `offset` as a slice.
> > +    /// `offset` and `count` are in units of `T`, not the number of bytes.
> > +    ///
> > +    /// Due to the safety requirements of slice, the data returned should be regarded by the
> > +    /// caller as a snapshot of the region when this function is called, as the region could
> > +    /// be modified by the device at anytime. For ringbuffer type of r/w access or use-cases
> > +    /// where the pointer to the live data is needed, `start_ptr()` or `start_ptr_mut()`
> > +    /// could be used instead.
> > +    ///
> > +    /// # Safety
> > +    ///
> > +    /// Callers must ensure that no hardware operations that involve the buffer are currently
> > +    /// taking place while the returned slice is live.
> > +    pub unsafe fn as_slice(&self, offset: usize, count: usize) -> Result<&[T]> {
> 
> You were asked to rename this function because it returns a slice, but
> I wonder if it's better to take an `&mut [T]` argument and to have
> this function copy data into that argument. That way, we could make
> the function itself safe. Perhaps the actual copy needs to be
> volatile?

Why do we consider the existing one unsafe?

Surely, it's not desirable that the contents of the buffer are modified by the
HW unexpectedly, but is this a concern in terms of Rust safety requirements?

And if so, how does this go away with the proposed approach?

> 
> Well ... I understand that we did this previously and that we want to
> avoid it because it causes too much reading if T is a struct and we
> just want to read one of its fields. How about an API like this?
> 
> dma_read!(my_alloc[7].foo)
> 
> which expands to something that reads the value of the foo field of
> the 7th element, and
> 
> dma_write!(my_alloc[7].foo = 13);

I really like how this turns out.

> 
> That expands to something that writes 13 to field foo of the 7th element.
> 
> Thoughts? I'm proposing this to avoid going in circles between the
> same solutions.
> 
> Alice

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-27 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-23 10:42 [PATCH v11 0/3] Add dma coherent allocator abstraction Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-23 10:42 ` [PATCH v11 1/3] rust: error: Add EOVERFLOW Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-23 10:42 ` [PATCH v11 2/3] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-23 12:30   ` Petr Tesařík
2025-01-23 13:38     ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-23 14:44       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-23 22:54         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-24  7:27   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-27  6:16     ` Petr Tesařík
2025-01-27  9:45       ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-27 10:37     ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-01-27 10:43       ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-27 12:14         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-27 13:25           ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-27 13:34             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-27 13:42               ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-27 16:59         ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-27 18:32           ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-27 18:38             ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-27 18:46               ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-27 19:01                 ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-27 19:05                   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-27 19:21                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-27 19:37                       ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-27 10:52       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-27 10:59     ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-27 11:34       ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-28 10:22         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-28 10:25           ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-28 10:36             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-28 11:28               ` Alice Ryhl
2025-02-15 21:40   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-02-17 13:52     ` Robin Murphy
2025-02-17 17:37       ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-02-18  9:58       ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-02-18 12:19         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-02-18 12:44           ` Robin Murphy
2025-01-23 10:42 ` [PATCH v11 3/3] MAINTAINERS: add entry for Rust dma mapping helpers device driver API Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-30 11:49   ` Robin Murphy
2025-01-30 12:00     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-03  8:37     ` Abdiel Janulgue

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