From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7313653; Sun, 9 Feb 2025 00:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1739062081; cv=none; b=HD30HB6CB/xEeD86Xz5kc13Z7NjwK0RN8bQuIotnfgcmNERRHYBKwtB0aHWKz6JW3dVysFCvsaRA/4hnLOQu9P7awLpqxR4OgBB3fYdgi71oGNhiE3MiiNIAhOG/dt7fXF8vjDrAUWpP668QlDb38BiizF6bbPr/6Z9hMGTLVzM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1739062081; c=relaxed/simple; bh=qzrkW/FtYpC4vxsTUm2M/DPtl7GUjdWaJCHRPy+ZSVw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=CsX6l9wzoXg1kEqGhHpuDQmS3aSOsjUawp3fEHFENoEYywLQtV3hg3uxnQ1SMTkSI9WW1vGYeiQzUqArzmIwxv6SLXLjcixL9xv2BSAJ+KtW7O7r3uGsHqVOQiKvxxF8diGNoCDrfWEyVxc/sgOA+yMGgs9QGIXIMKOYXMVGJ5c= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=ZOekPdPG; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="ZOekPdPG" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 85CAFC4CED6; Sun, 9 Feb 2025 00:47:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1739062080; bh=qzrkW/FtYpC4vxsTUm2M/DPtl7GUjdWaJCHRPy+ZSVw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=ZOekPdPG9rGXAHwHCR6hmFwTQMVrCn3b0BkMOkL5ga4lVl9Bs1dV7Qj8jWjhegNaN k6ROCugHcyaC2GsNvAJMCwS3vFBqmdutah+OvU5vCstt6uSky2vq1mC0Ntlm+frb2C X0xFTOQ9fU5W68iySd8+jcI7HJZVFGPYagaFMyZu0Yv8H8hpMUpy+8+kFA8Jfor1sH iANNuiZ66aMDXpHLfZVRtVHNNoiCXmArinGre7+QqR9FS9NA4DVvwT/K9Cz7cL1nI2 1YH+2yIZfba9d5ndLHMbRXsv6b4BtAKXU5z1HZB6z9YXcYElecobD3sDIfa+ajQkV3 NzCmF/NhFCXPg== Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 01:47:52 +0100 From: Danilo Krummrich To: Theodore Ts'o Cc: "Dr. Greg" , Linus Torvalds , Hector Martin , Dave Airlie , Jason Gunthorpe , Greg KH , phasta@kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , Miguel Ojeda , Abdiel Janulgue , daniel.almeida@collabora.com, aliceryhl@google.com, robin.murphy@arm.com, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, Miguel Ojeda , Alex Gaynor , Boqun Feng , Gary Guo , Bj??rn Roy Baron , Benno Lossin , Andreas Hindborg , Trevor Gross , Valentin Obst , open list , Marek Szyprowski , airlied@redhat.com, "open list:DMA MAPPING HELPERS" , DRI Development Subject: Re: On community influencing (was Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.) Message-ID: References: <20250130172437.GN5556@nvidia.com> <2025013148-reversal-pessimism-1515@gregkh> <20250131135421.GO5556@nvidia.com> <2b9b75d1-eb8e-494a-b05f-59f75c92e6ae@marcan.st> <208e1fc3-cfc3-4a26-98c3-a48ab35bb9db@marcan.st> <20250207121638.GA7356@wind.enjellic.com> <20250208204416.GL1130956@mit.edu> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20250208204416.GL1130956@mit.edu> Ted, On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 03:44:16PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > This was the trust of my "Beyond Upstream First" presentation which I > gave to the Linux Foundation Member Summit last fall[1]. > > [1] https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/11rMc8PBeyMItV6hv31OHSZ626_6FCZxjX6ZxEAehCpQ/edit#slide=id.p > > Now, I'll say that the Rust developers are making strides in the right > direction here. Please let me add that a lot of those Rust kernel developers also have been kernel developers before there has been Rust in the kernel and do still contribute and even maintain C components, drivers and / or subsystems. I think missing trust should not be a relevent factor in this matter. > Miguel has stood for election for the Technical > Adviory Board, and has been contributing in various ways beyond just > Rust for Linux. Thanks for pointing this out. - Danilo