From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Oliver Mangold <oliver.mangold@pm.me>
Cc: "Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] rust: adding UniqueRefCounted and UniqueRef types
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2025 11:31:15 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8mHgyNxb6rv6Vhm@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z8l1Zt3ibanzBhnX@mango>
On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 10:14:05AM +0000, Oliver Mangold wrote:
> On 250306 0935, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> >
> > Ultimately, if a struct implements AlwaysRefcounted, then you can always
> > increments its refcount.
>
> > If you want a version of the struct where that
> > is not the case, then you need a different struct that does *not*
> > implement AlwaysRefcounted.
> >
> I guess so, but it would be possible to make 'From<&T> for ARef<T>' opt-in,
> by requiring a separate marker trait.
>
> That you can call 'AlwaysRefCounted::inc_ref()' directly doesn't seem a
> problem to me, as it will only leak the object, not create a reference.
>
> A quick grep shows me that there are currently 7 implementers:
>
> unsafe impl AlwaysRefCounted for Credential {
> unsafe impl AlwaysRefCounted for File {
> unsafe impl AlwaysRefCounted for LocalFile {
> unsafe impl<T: Operations> AlwaysRefCounted for Request<T> {
> unsafe impl crate::types::AlwaysRefCounted for Device {
> unsafe impl crate::types::AlwaysRefCounted for Task {
> unsafe impl AlwaysRefCounted for PidNamespace {
>
> So it looks doable to me.
How about this:
* Rename AlwaysRefCounted to RefCounted.
* Introduce a new AlwaysRefCounted trait with no methods and gate
`From<&T>` on it. It has RefCounted as a sub-trait.
* Introduce an Ownable trait with an Owned type like in [1].
* Given an Owned<T> where T:RefCounted you can convert from Owned<T> to
ARef<T>.
And there needs to be a safety requirement on Ownable or
AlwaysRefCounted which requires that a type cannot implement both
traits. Alternatively, if a type implements both, it needs to be safe to
have both Owned<T> and ARef<T> references at the same time, which could
make sense for a type that has one "special" reference and many normal
references.
If you want conversions ARef<T> to Owned<T>, you should add a new trait
TryIntoOwned that's a super-trait of both RefCounted and Owned and has
the `try` method for the conversion.
Thoughts?
Alice
[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20250202-rust-page-v1-1-e3170d7fe55e@asahilina.net/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-06 11:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-05 11:31 [PATCH v4] rust: adding UniqueRefCounted and UniqueRef types Oliver Mangold
2025-03-05 13:39 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05 14:56 ` Oliver Mangold
2025-03-05 15:13 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05 15:38 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 16:02 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05 17:24 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-06 9:35 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-06 9:48 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-06 10:14 ` Oliver Mangold
2025-03-06 11:31 ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2025-03-06 12:03 ` Oliver Mangold
2025-03-06 12:08 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05 15:42 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 16:15 ` Oliver Mangold
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