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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Alice Ryhl <alice@ryhl.io>
Cc: "Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <walmeida@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] rust: arc: remove `ArcBorrow` in favour of `WithRef`
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:06:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZRIEYg9L9ZSYRLgd@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRIDc_x9Qh5EJNC8@boqun-archlinux>

On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 03:02:27PM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:58:46PM +0200, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > On 9/25/23 23:55, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 09:03:52PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> > > > On 25.09.23 20:51, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 05:00:45PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> > > > > > On 25.09.23 18:16, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 03:07:44PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> > > > > > > > ```rust
> > > > > > > > struct MutatingDrop {
> > > > > > > >         value: i32,
> > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > impl Drop for MutatingDrop {
> > > > > > > >         fn drop(&mut self) {
> > > > > > > >             self.value = 0;
> > > > > > > >         }
> > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > let arc = Arc::new(MutatingDrop { value: 42 });
> > > > > > > > let wr = arc.as_with_ref(); // this creates a shared `&` reference to the MutatingDrop
> > > > > > > > let arc2: Arc<MutatingDrop> = wr.into(); // increments the reference count to 2
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > More precisely, here we did a
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 	&WithRef<_> -> NonNull<WithRef<_>>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > conversion, and later on, we may use the `NonNull<WithRef<_>>` in
> > > > > > > `drop` to get a `Box<WithRef<_>>`.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Indeed.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can we workaround this issue by (ab)using the `UnsafeCell` inside
> > > > > `WithRef<T>`?
> > > > > 
> > > > > impl<T: ?Sized> From<&WithRef<T>> for Arc<T> {
> > > > >       fn from(b: &WithRef<T>) -> Self {
> > > > >           // SAFETY: The existence of the references proves that
> > > > > 	// `b.refcount.get()` is a valid pointer to `WithRef<T>`.
> > > > > 	let ptr = unsafe { NonNull::new_unchecked(b.refcount.get().cast::<WithRef<T>>()) };
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	// SAFETY: see the SAFETY above `let ptr = ..` line.
> > > > >           ManuallyDrop::new(unsafe { Arc::from_inner(ptr) })
> > > > >               .deref()
> > > > >               .clone()
> > > > >       }
> > > > > }
> > > > > 
> > > > > This way, the raw pointer in the new Arc no longer derives from the
> > > > > reference of `WithRef<T>`.
> > > > 
> > > > No, the code above only obtains a pointer that has provenance valid
> > > > for a `bindings::refcount_t` (or type with the same layout, such as
> > > > `Opaque<bindings::refcount_t>`). But not the whole `WithRef<T>`, so accessing
> > > > it by reading/writing will still be UB.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Hmm... but we do the similar thing in `Arc::from_raw()`, right?
> > > 
> > >      	pub unsafe fn from_raw(ptr: *const T) -> Self {
> > > 	    ..
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > , what we have is a pointer to T, and we construct a pointer to
> > > `ArcInner<T>/WithRef<T>`, in that function. Because the `sub` on pointer
> > > gets away from provenance? If so, we can also do a sub(0) in the above
> > > code.
> > 
> > Not sure what you mean. Operations on raw pointers leave provenance
> > unchanged.
> 
> Let's look at the function from_raw(), the input is a pointer to T,
> right? So you only have the provenance to T, but in that function, the
> pointer is casted to a pointer to WithRef<T>/ArcInner<T>, that means you
> have the provenance to the whole WithRef<T>/ArcInner<T>, right? My
> question is: why isn't that a UB?
> 

Or how does it get away from provenance checkings?

Regards,
Boqun

> Regards,
> Boqun
> 
> > 
> > Alice
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-25 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-23 14:49 [PATCH v2 0/2] Remove `ArcBorrow` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-09-23 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: arc: rename `ArcInner` to `WithRef` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-09-23 19:31   ` Martin Rodriguez Reboredo
2023-09-24 11:59   ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-24 13:41   ` Jianguo Bao
2023-09-25  6:21   ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-23 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] rust: arc: remove `ArcBorrow` in favour of `WithRef` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-09-23 19:32   ` Martin Rodriguez Reboredo
2023-09-24 11:59   ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-24 13:36   ` Jianguo Bao
2023-09-25  6:29   ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25  9:14     ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 14:49       ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 15:00         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 15:17           ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 15:30             ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 16:02               ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 16:11                 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 15:07         ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 16:16           ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 17:00             ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 18:51               ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 21:03                 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 21:55                   ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 21:58                     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 22:02                       ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 22:06                         ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2023-09-25 22:26                         ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 22:34                           ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 23:24                             ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26  8:26                           ` Gary Guo
2023-09-26 15:24                             ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 15:41                               ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-26 16:35                                 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 17:15                                   ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-26 17:43                                     ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 18:26                                       ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-26 21:31                                       ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-26 18:20                                     ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 21:27                                       ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 15:04       ` Alice Ryhl

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