From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <alice@ryhl.io>, "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Wedson Almeida Filho" <walmeida@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] rust: arc: remove `ArcBorrow` in favour of `WithRef`
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:34:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZRILEIsKW6LsGdfb@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61ccfb87-54fd-3f1b-105c-253d0350cd56@proton.me>
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 10:26:56PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On 26.09.23 00:02, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:58:46PM +0200, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> >> On 9/25/23 23:55, Boqun Feng wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 09:03:52PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> >>>> On 25.09.23 20:51, Boqun Feng wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 05:00:45PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> >>>>>> On 25.09.23 18:16, Boqun Feng wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 03:07:44PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> >>>>>>>> ```rust
> >>>>>>>> struct MutatingDrop {
> >>>>>>>> value: i32,
> >>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> impl Drop for MutatingDrop {
> >>>>>>>> fn drop(&mut self) {
> >>>>>>>> self.value = 0;
> >>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> let arc = Arc::new(MutatingDrop { value: 42 });
> >>>>>>>> let wr = arc.as_with_ref(); // this creates a shared `&` reference to the MutatingDrop
> >>>>>>>> let arc2: Arc<MutatingDrop> = wr.into(); // increments the reference count to 2
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> More precisely, here we did a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> &WithRef<_> -> NonNull<WithRef<_>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> conversion, and later on, we may use the `NonNull<WithRef<_>>` in
> >>>>>>> `drop` to get a `Box<WithRef<_>>`.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Indeed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can we workaround this issue by (ab)using the `UnsafeCell` inside
> >>>>> `WithRef<T>`?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> impl<T: ?Sized> From<&WithRef<T>> for Arc<T> {
> >>>>> fn from(b: &WithRef<T>) -> Self {
> >>>>> // SAFETY: The existence of the references proves that
> >>>>> // `b.refcount.get()` is a valid pointer to `WithRef<T>`.
> >>>>> let ptr = unsafe { NonNull::new_unchecked(b.refcount.get().cast::<WithRef<T>>()) };
> >>>>>
> >>>>> // SAFETY: see the SAFETY above `let ptr = ..` line.
> >>>>> ManuallyDrop::new(unsafe { Arc::from_inner(ptr) })
> >>>>> .deref()
> >>>>> .clone()
> >>>>> }
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This way, the raw pointer in the new Arc no longer derives from the
> >>>>> reference of `WithRef<T>`.
> >>>>
> >>>> No, the code above only obtains a pointer that has provenance valid
> >>>> for a `bindings::refcount_t` (or type with the same layout, such as
> >>>> `Opaque<bindings::refcount_t>`). But not the whole `WithRef<T>`, so accessing
> >>>> it by reading/writing will still be UB.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Hmm... but we do the similar thing in `Arc::from_raw()`, right?
> >>>
> >>> pub unsafe fn from_raw(ptr: *const T) -> Self {
> >>> ..
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> , what we have is a pointer to T, and we construct a pointer to
> >>> `ArcInner<T>/WithRef<T>`, in that function. Because the `sub` on pointer
> >>> gets away from provenance? If so, we can also do a sub(0) in the above
> >>> code.
> >>
> >> Not sure what you mean. Operations on raw pointers leave provenance
> >> unchanged.
> >
> > Let's look at the function from_raw(), the input is a pointer to T,
> > right? So you only have the provenance to T, but in that function, the
> > pointer is casted to a pointer to WithRef<T>/ArcInner<T>, that means you
> > have the provenance to the whole WithRef<T>/ArcInner<T>, right? My
> > question is: why isn't that a UB?
>
> The pointer was originally derived by a call to `into_raw`:
> ```
> pub fn into_raw(self) -> *const T {
> let ptr = self.ptr.as_ptr();
> core::mem::forget(self);
> // SAFETY: The pointer is valid.
> unsafe { core::ptr::addr_of!((*ptr).data) }
> }
> ```
> So in this function the origin (also the origin of the provenance)
> of the pointer is `ptr` which is of type `NonNull<WithRef<T>>`.
> Raw pointers do not lose this provenance information when you cast
> it and when using `addr_of`/`addr_of_mut`. So provenance is something
> that is not really represented in the type system for raw pointers.
Ah, I see, that's the thing I was missing. Now it makes much sense to
me, thank you both!
>
> When doing a round trip through a reference though, the provenance is
> newly assigned and thus would only be valid for a `T`:
> ```
> let raw = arc.into_raw();
> let reference = unsafe { &*raw };
> let raw: *const T = reference;
> let arc = unsafe { Arc::from_raw(raw) };
> ```
Agreed. This example demonstrates the key point: the provenances of raw
pointers are decided at derive time.
Regards,
Boqun
> Miri would complain about the above code.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Benno
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-25 22:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-23 14:49 [PATCH v2 0/2] Remove `ArcBorrow` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-09-23 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: arc: rename `ArcInner` to `WithRef` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-09-23 19:31 ` Martin Rodriguez Reboredo
2023-09-24 11:59 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-24 13:41 ` Jianguo Bao
2023-09-25 6:21 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-23 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] rust: arc: remove `ArcBorrow` in favour of `WithRef` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-09-23 19:32 ` Martin Rodriguez Reboredo
2023-09-24 11:59 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-24 13:36 ` Jianguo Bao
2023-09-25 6:29 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 9:14 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 14:49 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 15:00 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 15:17 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 15:30 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 16:02 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 16:11 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 15:07 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 16:16 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 17:00 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 18:51 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 21:03 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 21:55 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 21:58 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 22:02 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 22:06 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 22:26 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 22:34 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2023-09-25 23:24 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 8:26 ` Gary Guo
2023-09-26 15:24 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 15:41 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-26 16:35 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 17:15 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-26 17:43 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 18:26 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-26 21:31 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-26 18:20 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 21:27 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 15:04 ` Alice Ryhl
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