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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	andrew@lunn.ch, miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com, greg@kroah.com,
	tmgross@umich.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] rust: core abstractions for network PHY drivers
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 00:13:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZSeckzvOTyre3SVM@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231012.160246.2019423056896039320.fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 04:02:46PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:44:44 +0900 (JST)
> FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 23:34:18 -0700
> > Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 02:58:24PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:29:45 -0700
> >>> Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> > On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 10:39:10AM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> >>> > [...]
> >>> >> +impl Device {
> >>> >> +    /// Creates a new [`Device`] instance from a raw pointer.
> >>> >> +    ///
> >>> >> +    /// # Safety
> >>> >> +    ///
> >>> >> +    /// For the duration of the lifetime 'a, the pointer must be valid for writing and nobody else
> >>> >> +    /// may read or write to the `phy_device` object.
> >>> >> +    pub unsafe fn from_raw<'a>(ptr: *mut bindings::phy_device) -> &'a mut Self {
> >>> >> +        unsafe { &mut *ptr.cast() }
> >>> >> +    }
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +    /// Gets the id of the PHY.
> >>> >> +    pub fn phy_id(&mut self) -> u32 {
> >>> > 
> >>> > This function doesn't modify the `self`, why does this need to be a
> >>> > `&mut self` function? Ditto for a few functions in this impl block.
> >>> > 
> >>> > It seems you used `&mut self` for all the functions, which looks like
> >>> > more design work is required here.
> >>> 
> >>> Ah, I can drop all the mut here.
> >> 
> >> It may not be that easy... IIUC, most of the functions in the `impl`
> >> block can only be called correctly with phydev->lock held. In other
> >> words, their usage requires exclusive accesses. We should somehow
> >> express this in the type system, otherwise someone may lose track on
> >> this requirement in the future (for example, calling any function
> >> without the lock held).
> >>
> >> A simple type trick comes to me is that
> >> 
> >> impl Device {
> >>     // rename `from_raw` into `assume_locked`
> >>     pub unsafe fn assume_locked<'a>(ptr: *mut bindings::phy_device) -> &'a LockedDevice {
> >> 	...
> >>     }
> >> }
> > 
> > Hmm, the concept of PHYLIB is that a driver never play with a
> > lock. From the perspective of PHYLIB, this abstraction is a PHY
> > driver. The abstraction should not touch the lock.
> > 
> > How can someone lose track on this requirement? The abstraction
> > creates a Device instance only inside the callbacks.
> 
> Note `pub` isn't necessary here. I removed it.
> 
> No chance to misuse a Device instance as explained above, but if we
> need to express the exclusive here, better to keep `mut`?
> 

If `Device::from_raw`'s safety requirement is "only called in callbacks
with phydevice->lock held, etc.", then the exclusive access is
guaranteed by the safety requirement, therefore `mut` can be drop. It's
a matter of the exact semantics of the APIs.

Regards,
Boqun

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-12  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-09  1:39 [PATCH net-next v3 0/3] Rust abstractions for network PHY drivers FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09  1:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] rust: core " FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09  3:17   ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-09 12:19   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-09 13:02     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 13:56       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-09 14:13         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-11 14:16     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 12:59   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 13:49     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 14:32       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:15         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 15:19           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:11       ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 15:24         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 15:39           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:50             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-11  9:59               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-11 23:18                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13 11:59                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-13 15:15                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13 18:33                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-14 12:31                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-14 16:19                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-12  0:29                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 21:07           ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-09 21:21             ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-11  7:04             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 13:54     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 14:48       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 17:04         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-12  3:59     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12  4:43       ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-12  7:09         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-11 18:29   ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-12  5:58     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12  6:34       ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-12  6:44         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12  7:02           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12  7:13             ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2023-10-12  7:32               ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-12  7:58                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12  9:10                   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-13  4:17                     ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-13  5:45                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13  7:56                         ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-13  9:53                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13 10:03                             ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-13 10:53                               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-14  7:47                                 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-14 21:55                                   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-14 22:18                                     ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-14 22:33                                       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-14  4:11                             ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-14 11:59                             ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-12  7:07           ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-09  1:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/3] MAINTAINERS: add Rust PHY abstractions to the ETHERNET PHY LIBRARY FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09  1:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 3/3] net: phy: add Rust Asix PHY driver FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09  3:22   ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-09  7:23   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-09 10:58     ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 11:41     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 12:32     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 14:01       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 14:31         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 15:27           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:35             ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 16:09               ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 10:10   ` Greg KH
2023-10-12 11:57     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 12:42   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-09 13:15     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 13:45       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-09 12:48 ` [PATCH net-next v3 0/3] Rust abstractions for network PHY drivers Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 12:53   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 13:06     ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 14:13       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 14:52         ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 15:06           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:14             ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 15:15               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 13:24     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 13:36       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 14:21     ` Andrea Righi
2023-10-09 14:22       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 14:56       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 15:04         ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 15:10           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:15             ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 14:56       ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 15:09         ` Andrea Righi

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