From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: "Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)" <nmi@metaspace.dk>
Cc: Wedson Almeida Filho <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
Wedson Almeida Filho <walmeida@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/19] rust: folio: introduce basic support for folios
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 15:28:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZTaDFe/s2wvyI9u2@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6mhfwbm.fsf@metaspace.dk>
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 12:48:33PM +0200, Andreas Hindborg (Samsung) wrote:
> The build system and Rust compiler can inline and optimize across
> function calls and languages when LTO is enabled. Some patches are
> needed to make it work though.
That's fine, but something like folio_put() is performance-critical.
Relying on the linker to figure out that it _should_ inline through
+void rust_helper_folio_put(struct folio *folio)
+{
+ folio_put(folio);
+}
+EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(rust_helper_folio_put);
seems like a very bad idea to me. For reference, folio_put() is
defined as:
static inline void folio_put(struct folio *folio)
{
if (folio_put_testzero(folio))
__folio_put(folio);
}
which turns into (once you work your way through all the gunk that hasn't
been cleaned up yet)
if (atomic_dec_and_test(&folio->_refcount))
__folio_put(folio)
ie it's a single dec-and-test insn followed by a conditional function
call. Yes, there's some expensive debug you can turn on in there, but
it's an incredibly frequent call, and we shouldn't be relying on linker
magic to optimise it all away.
Of course, I don't want to lose the ability to turn on the debug code,
so folio.put() can't be as simple as the call to atomic_dec_and_test(),
but I hope you see my point.
Wedson wrote in a later email,
> Having said that, while it's possible to do what you suggested above,
> we try to avoid it so that maintainers can continue to have a single
> place they need to change if they ever decide to change things. A
> simple example from above is order(), if you decide to implement it
> differently (I don't know, if you change the flag, you decide to have
> an explicit field, whatever), then you'd have to change the C _and_
> the Rust versions. Worse yet, there's a chance that forgetting to
> update the Rust version wouldn't break the build, which would make it
> harder to catch mismatched versions.
I understand that concern! Indeed, I did change the implementation
of folio_order() recently. I'm happy to commit to keeping the Rust
implementation updated as I modify the C implementation of folios,
but I appreciate that other maintainers may not be willing to make such
a commitment.
I'm all the way up to Chapter 5: References in the Blandy book now!
I expect to understand the patches you're sending any week now ;-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-23 14:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-18 12:24 [RFC PATCH 00/19] Rust abstractions for VFS Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 01/19] rust: fs: add registration/unregistration of file systems Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 15:38 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-10 18:32 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-25 9:15 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 02/19] rust: fs: introduce the `module_fs` macro Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 03/19] samples: rust: add initial ro file system sample Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-28 16:18 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-10 18:25 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 04/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::super_params` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 16:34 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-28 16:39 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-10-30 8:21 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-30 21:36 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-10-20 15:04 ` Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2024-01-03 12:25 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 05/19] rust: fs: introduce `INode<T>` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-28 18:00 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-03 12:45 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-03 12:54 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-04 5:20 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-01-04 9:57 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-10 9:45 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-04 5:14 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-01-24 18:17 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 06/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::init_root` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-19 14:30 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-20 0:52 ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-21 13:48 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 15:57 ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-21 17:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-21 19:33 ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-23 5:29 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-23 12:55 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-30 2:29 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-31 20:49 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-11-08 4:54 ` Dave Chinner
2023-11-08 6:15 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-20 0:30 ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-23 12:36 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 13:29 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-24 4:07 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 07/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::read_dir` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-21 8:33 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-03 14:09 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-21 21:00 ` Askar Safin
2024-01-21 21:51 ` Dave Chinner
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 08/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::lookup` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 09/19] rust: folio: introduce basic support for folios Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 17:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-18 18:32 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 19:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-19 13:25 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-20 4:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-20 15:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-23 12:32 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-23 10:48 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-23 14:28 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-10-24 15:04 ` Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2023-10-23 12:29 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-21 9:21 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 10/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::read_folio` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-11-07 22:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-07 22:22 ` Al Viro
2023-11-08 0:35 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-11-08 0:56 ` Al Viro
2023-11-08 2:39 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 11/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::read_xattr` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 13:06 ` Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2023-10-19 13:35 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 12/19] rust: fs: introduce `FileSystem::statfs` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 14:13 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2024-01-04 5:33 ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-01-24 4:24 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 13/19] rust: fs: introduce more inode types Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 14/19] rust: fs: add per-superblock data Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-25 15:51 ` Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2023-10-26 13:46 ` Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2024-01-03 14:16 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 15/19] rust: fs: add basic support for fs buffer heads Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 14:17 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 16/19] rust: fs: allow file systems backed by a block device Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-21 13:39 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-24 4:14 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 14:38 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 17/19] rust: fs: allow per-inode data Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-21 13:57 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-03 14:39 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 18/19] rust: fs: export file type from mode constants Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 19/19] tarfs: introduce tar fs Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 16:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-18 17:05 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-18 17:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-18 18:07 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-24 5:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-24 5:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-24 18:26 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-24 21:05 ` Dave Chinner
2024-01-24 21:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-24 5:34 ` Gao Xiang
2023-10-18 13:40 ` [RFC PATCH 00/19] Rust abstractions for VFS Ariel Miculas (amiculas)
2023-10-18 17:12 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-10-29 20:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-10-31 20:14 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 18:02 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-03 19:04 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-03 19:53 ` Al Viro
2024-01-03 20:38 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-04 1:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-09 18:25 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-09 19:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-03 19:14 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-03 20:41 ` Al Viro
2024-01-09 19:13 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-09 19:25 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-09 19:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-01-10 7:49 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2024-01-10 7:57 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-01-10 12:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-01-09 22:19 ` Dave Chinner
2024-01-10 19:19 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-24 13:08 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2024-01-24 19:49 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-01-05 0:04 ` David Howells
2024-01-05 15:54 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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