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From: Oliver Mangold <oliver.mangold@pm.me>
To: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Asahi Lina" <lina@asahilina.net>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 3/5] rust: Add missing SAFETY documentation for ARef example
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 06:07:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_33ntAgpRU_541N@mango> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a58pd6t4.fsf@kernel.org>

On 250409 1126, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> "Oliver Mangold" <oliver.mangold@pm.me> writes:
> 
> > SAFETY comment in rustdoc example was just 'TODO'. Fixed.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Oliver Mangold <oliver.mangold@pm.me>
> > ---
> >  rust/kernel/types.rs | 4 ++--
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/rust/kernel/types.rs b/rust/kernel/types.rs
> > index c8b78bcad259132808cc38c56b9f2bd525a0b755..db29f7c725e631c11099fa9122901ec2b3f4a039 100644
> > --- a/rust/kernel/types.rs
> > +++ b/rust/kernel/types.rs
> > @@ -492,7 +492,7 @@ pub unsafe fn from_raw(ptr: NonNull<T>) -> Self {
> >      ///
> >      /// struct Empty {}
> >      ///
> > -    /// # // SAFETY: TODO.
> > +    /// // SAFETY: We do not free anything.
> 
> How about:
> 
>   This implementation will never free the underlying object, so the
>   object is kept alive longer than the safety requirement specifies.

Yes, was rather sloppy wording. Thanks, I will use your version.

> >      /// unsafe impl RefCounted for Empty {
> >      ///     fn inc_ref(&self) {}
> >      ///     unsafe fn dec_ref(_obj: NonNull<Self>) {}
> > @@ -500,7 +500,7 @@ pub unsafe fn from_raw(ptr: NonNull<T>) -> Self {
> >      ///
> >      /// let mut data = Empty {};
> >      /// let ptr = NonNull::<Empty>::new(&mut data).unwrap();
> > -    /// # // SAFETY: TODO.
> > +    /// // SAFETY: We keep `data` around longer than the `ARef`.
> 
> This is not sufficient. The safety requirement is:
> 
>   Callers must ensure that the reference count was incremented at least once, and that they
>   are properly relinquishing one increment. That is, if there is only one increment, callers
>   must not use the underlying object anymore -- it is only safe to do so via the newly
>   created [`ARef`].
> 
> How about:
> 
>   The `RefCounted` implementation for `Empty` does not count references
>   and never frees the underlying object. Thus we can act as having a
>   refcount on the object that we pass to the newly created `ARef`.
> 
> I think this example actually exposes a soundness hole. When the
> underlying object is allocated on the stack, the safety requirements are
> not sufficient to ensure the lifetime of the object. We could safely
> return `data_ref` and have the underlying object go away. We should add
> to the safety requirement of `ARef::from_raw`:
> 
>   `ptr` must be valid while the refcount is positive.

Wouldn't this already be covered by the below in the doc for
AlwaysRefCounted?

    Implementers must ensure that increments to the reference count keep
    the object alive in memory at least until matching decrements are
    performed."

OTOH, it also says this (which would be violated):

    Implementers must also ensure that all instances are reference-counted.
    (Otherwise they won’t be able to honour the requirement that
    AlwaysRefCounted::inc_ref keep the object alive.)"

Should I change the example to one with an actual reference count?
Not sure, would make it more complex and less readable, of course.

Best regards,

Oliver


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-15  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-25 11:56 [PATCH v9 0/5] New trait OwnableRefCounted for ARef<->Owned conversion Oliver Mangold
2025-03-25 11:56 ` [PATCH v9 1/5] rust: types: Add Ownable/Owned types Oliver Mangold
2025-04-09  8:34   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-15  6:01     ` Oliver Mangold
2025-03-25 11:57 ` [PATCH v9 2/5] rust: Rename AlwaysRefCounted to RefCounted Oliver Mangold
2025-03-26 17:29   ` kernel test robot
2025-04-09  8:41   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-25 11:57 ` [PATCH v9 3/5] rust: Add missing SAFETY documentation for ARef example Oliver Mangold
2025-04-09  9:26   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-15  6:07     ` Oliver Mangold [this message]
2025-05-02 10:40       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-05-02 11:33         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-25 11:57 ` [PATCH v9 4/5] rust: kbuild: provide `RUSTC_HAS_DO_NOT_RECOMMEND` symbol Oliver Mangold
2025-04-09  9:27   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-25 11:57 ` [PATCH v9 5/5] rust: Add OwnableRefCounted and SimpleOwnableRefCounted Oliver Mangold
2025-04-09 10:17   ` Andreas Hindborg

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