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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: "Andreas Hindborg" <nmi@metaspace.dk>,
	"Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>, "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	"Damien Le Moal" <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>,
	"Hannes Reinecke" <hare@suse.de>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
	"Niklas Cassel" <Niklas.Cassel@wdc.com>,
	"Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
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	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Rust block device driver API and null block driver
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:12:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZfH6lTDQygFd1hz-@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <855a006d-5afc-4f70-90a9-ec94c0414d4f@acm.org>

On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 11:02:23AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 3/13/24 04:05, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> > This is the second version of the Rust block device driver API and the Rust null
> > block driver. The context and motivation can be seen in cover letter of the RFC
> > v1 [1]. If more context is required, a talk about this effort was recorded at
> > LPC [2]. I hope to be able to discuss this series at LSF this year [3].
> 
> Memory safety may land in C++ in the near future (see also
> https://herbsutter.com/2024/03/). If memory-safe C++ or memory-safe C
> would be adopted in the kernel, it would allow writing memory-safe
> drivers without having to add complicated bindings between existing C
> code and new Rust code. Please do not take this as personal criticism -
> I appreciate the effort that has been spent on coming up with great
> Rust bindings for the Linux kernel block layer.

You know, this reminds me of when I was at Intel working on NVMe.
We had a product all ready to ship and a manager suggested that we delay
shipping it until the SCSI-over-PCI standard was finished and ratified
so that the same piece of silicon could support both.

Fortunately, said manager was overruled, but it's a great example of
how this kind of FUD can actually work.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-13 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-13 11:05 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Rust block device driver API and null block driver Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-13 11:05 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] rust: block: introduce `kernel::block::mq` module Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-13 23:55   ` Boqun Feng
2024-03-14  8:58     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-14 18:55       ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-03-14 19:22         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-14 19:41           ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-14 19:41           ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-03-14 20:56             ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-03-15  7:52             ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-15 12:17               ` Ming Lei
2024-03-15 12:46                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-15 15:24                   ` Ming Lei
2024-03-15 17:49                     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-16 14:48                       ` Ming Lei
2024-03-16 17:27                         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-13 11:05 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] rust: block: introduce `kernel::block::bio` module Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-13 11:05 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] rust: block: allow `hrtimer::Timer` in `RequestData` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-23 10:51   ` Benno Lossin
2024-04-02 12:43     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-13 11:05 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] rust: block: add rnull, Rust null_blk implementation Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-23 11:33   ` Benno Lossin
2024-04-02 12:52     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-04-02 22:35       ` Benno Lossin
2024-04-03  9:47         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-04-03 10:29           ` Benno Lossin
2024-03-13 11:05 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] MAINTAINERS: add entry for Rust block device driver API Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-13 18:02 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Rust block device driver API and null block driver Bart Van Assche
2024-03-13 18:22   ` Boqun Feng
2024-03-13 19:03     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-13 19:11       ` Bart Van Assche
2024-03-13 19:12   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2024-03-14 12:14   ` Philipp Stanner
2024-03-14 17:03     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-03-14 17:16       ` Conor Dooley
2024-03-14 17:43       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-17  2:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-17  7:09   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-03-17 21:34     ` Matthew Wilcox

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