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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
Cc: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, wedsonaf@gmail.com,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
	a.hindborg@samsung.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	daniel.almeida@collabora.com, faith.ekstrand@collabora.com,
	boris.brezillon@collabora.com, lina@asahilina.net,
	mcanal@igalia.com, zhiw@nvidia.com, acurrid@nvidia.com,
	cjia@nvidia.com, jhubbard@nvidia.com, airlied@redhat.com,
	ajanulgu@redhat.com, lyude@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/28] rust: alloc: implement kernel `Box`
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 12:44:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZrNP9Lx-sTupwqG1@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f3a4ea5-79c6-4068-9a5f-0aa3a55e38cb@proton.me>

On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 08:01:00AM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On 07.08.24 09:51, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 9:49 AM Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
> >> On 07.08.24 01:01, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 07:47:17PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> >>>> On 05.08.24 17:19, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> >>>>> +impl<T, A> Box<T, A>
> >>>>> +where
> >>>>> +    T: ?Sized,
> >>>>> +    A: Allocator,
> >>>>> +{
> >>>>> +    /// Constructs a `Box<T, A>` from a raw pointer.
> >>>>> +    ///
> >>>>> +    /// # Safety
> >>>>> +    ///
> >>>>> +    /// `raw` must point to valid memory, previously allocated with `A`, and at least the size of
> >>>>> +    /// type `T`.
> >>>>
> >>>> With this requirement and the invariant on `Box`, I am lead to believe
> >>>> that you can't use this for ZSTs, since they are not allocated with `A`.
> >>>> One solution would be to adjust this requirement. But I would rather use
> >>>> a different solution: we move the dangling pointer stuff into the
> >>>> allocator and also call it when `T` is a ZST (ie don't special case them
> >>>> in `Box` but in the impls of `Allocator`). That way this can stay as-is
> >>>> and the part about ZSTs in the invariant can be removed.
> >>>
> >>> Actually, we already got that. Every zero sized allocation will return a
> >>> dangling pointer. However, we can't call `Allocator::free` with (any) dangling
> >>> pointer though.
> >>
> >> The last part is rather problematic in my opinion, since the safety
> >> requirements of the functions in `Allocator` don't ensure that you're
> >> not allowed to do it. We should make it possible to free dangling
> >> pointers that were previously "allocated" by the allocator (ie returned
> >> by `realloc`).
> >> Maybe we do need an `old_layout` parameter for that (that way we can
> >> also `debug_assert_eq!(old_layout.align(), new_layout.align())`).
> > 
> > The std allocators generally prohibit zero sized allocations, so it
> > seems sensible for us to do the same?
> 
> I never understood why they do that, the stdlib `Allocator` trait has
> all the information it needs to detect zero-sized allocations, so it
> could just return dangling pointers. I don't see the point of
> duplicating the zero-sized logic in `Box` and `Vec`...

I think it's simpler and less error prone.

Besides that, I think the stdlib `Box` allows to call `from_raw` with any random
pointer for ZST, which the allocator API can't catch.

> 
> ---
> Cheers,
> Benno
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-07 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-05 15:19 [PATCH v4 00/28] Generic `Allocator` support for Rust Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 01/28] rust: alloc: add `Allocator` trait Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 15:00   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-06 16:03   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06 18:30     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 20:04       ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07  9:36         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 20:00           ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07 18:19   ` Gary Guo
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 02/28] rust: alloc: separate `aligned_size` from `krealloc_aligned` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 16:06   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 03/28] rust: alloc: rename `KernelAllocator` to `Kmalloc` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 16:07   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07 18:22   ` Gary Guo
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 04/28] rust: alloc: implement `Allocator` for `Kmalloc` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 16:51   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06 18:55     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07  7:14       ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07 10:11         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 20:15           ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07 23:05             ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-08  8:55               ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-08  9:02                 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-08  9:42                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 05/28] rust: alloc: add module `allocator_test` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 16:54   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06 18:58     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07  7:20       ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07 10:16         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 06/28] rust: alloc: implement `Vmalloc` allocator Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 17:00   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06 19:01     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07  7:23       ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 07/28] rust: alloc: implement `KVmalloc` allocator Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 08/28] rust: types: implement `Unique<T>` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 17:22   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06 17:28     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-08-06 23:16       ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 23:12     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07  7:27       ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07 10:13         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 09/28] rust: alloc: implement kernel `Box` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 19:47   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06 23:01     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07  7:49       ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07  7:51         ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-07  8:01           ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07 10:44             ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2024-08-07 10:38         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 19:45           ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-08 17:44         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-08 19:44           ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 10/28] rust: treewide: switch to our kernel `Box` type Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 12:42   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-07 20:57   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07 21:16     ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07 23:08     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 11/28] rust: alloc: remove `BoxExt` extension Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-08  6:48   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 12/28] rust: alloc: add `Box` to prelude Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-08  6:49   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 13/28] rust: alloc: import kernel `Box` type in types.rs Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 14/28] rust: alloc: import kernel `Box` type in init.rs Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 15/28] rust: alloc: implement kernel `Vec` type Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 16/28] rust: alloc: implement `IntoIterator` for `Vec` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 17/28] rust: alloc: implement `collect` for `IntoIter` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 18/28] rust: treewide: switch to the kernel `Vec` type Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 13:47   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-08  9:08   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 19/28] rust: alloc: remove `VecExt` extension Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 12:42   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-08  9:14   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 20/28] rust: alloc: add `Vec` to prelude Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 13:55   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-08  8:40   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 21/28] rust: alloc: remove `GlobalAlloc` and `krealloc_aligned` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-06 19:07   ` Björn Roy Baron
2024-08-06 21:14     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-08-07 21:23   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-07 23:16     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 22/28] rust: error: use `core::alloc::LayoutError` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 13:55   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-08  7:42   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 23/28] rust: error: check for config `test` in `Error::name` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 13:54   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 24/28] rust: alloc: implement `contains` for `Flags` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 13:53   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 25/28] rust: alloc: implement `Cmalloc` in module allocator_test Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-08  9:35   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-08 10:07     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 26/28] rust: str: test: replace `alloc::format` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 13:51   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-08  7:22   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-12 13:07     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 27/28] rust: alloc: update module comment of alloc.rs Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-07 13:50   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-08  6:59   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-05 15:19 ` [PATCH v4 28/28] kbuild: rust: remove the `alloc` crate Danilo Krummrich
2024-08-08  6:58   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-08  9:45   ` Benno Lossin

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