From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@gmail.com>
Cc: "Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Anna-Maria Behnsen" <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] hrtimer Rust API
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 16:21:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zwmy-2Yc7vGboYvl@boqun-archlinux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dae08234-c9ba-472d-b769-1d07e579a8ac@gmail.com>
On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 05:43:57PM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Am 11.10.24 um 16:52 schrieb Andreas Hindborg:
> >
> > Dirk, thanks for reporting!
>
> :)
>
> > Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > On Tue, Oct 01, 2024 at 02:37:46PM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
> > > > On 18.09.2024 00:27, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > This series adds support for using the `hrtimer` subsystem from Rust code.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried breaking up the code in some smaller patches, hopefully that will
> > > > > ease the review process a bit.
> > > >
> > > > Just fyi, having all 14 patches applied I get [1] on the first (doctest)
> > > > Example from hrtimer.rs.
> > > >
> > > > This is from lockdep:
> > > >
> > > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/kernel/locking/lockdep.c#n4785
> > > >
> > > > Having just a quick look I'm not sure what the root cause is. Maybe mutex in
> > > > interrupt context? Or a more subtle one?
> > >
> > > I think it's calling mutex inside an interrupt context as shown by the
> > > callstack:
> > >
> > > ] __mutex_lock+0xa0/0xa4
> > > ] ...
> > > ] hrtimer_interrupt+0x1d4/0x2ac
> > >
> > > , it is because:
> > >
> > > +//! struct ArcIntrusiveTimer {
> > > +//! #[pin]
> > > +//! timer: Timer<Self>,
> > > +//! #[pin]
> > > +//! flag: Mutex<bool>,
> > > +//! #[pin]
> > > +//! cond: CondVar,
> > > +//! }
> > >
> > > has a Mutex<bool>, which actually should be a SpinLockIrq [1]. Note that
> > > irq-off is needed for the lock, because otherwise we will hit a self
> > > deadlock due to interrupts:
> > >
> > > spin_lock(&a);
> > > > timer interrupt
> > > spin_lock(&a);
> > >
> > > Also notice that the IrqDisabled<'_> token can be simply created by
> > > ::new(), because irq contexts should guarantee interrupt disabled (i.e.
> > > we don't support nested interrupts*).
> >
> > I updated the example based on the work in [1]. I think we need to
> > update `CondVar::wait` to support waiting with irq disabled.
>
> Yes, I agree. This answers one of the open questions I had in the discussion
> with Boqun :)
>
> What do you think regarding the other open question: In this *special* case
> here, what do you think to go *without* any lock? I mean the 'while *guard
> != 5' loop in the main thread is read only regarding guard. So it doesn't
> matter if it *reads* the old or the new value. And the read/modify/write of
> guard in the callback is done with interrupts disabled anyhow as it runs in
> interrupt context. And with this can't be interrupted (excluding nested
> interrupts). So this modification of guard doesn't need to be protected from
> being interrupted by a lock if there is no modifcation of guard "outside"
> the interupt locked context.
>
> What do you think?
>
Reading while there is another CPU is writing is data-race, which is UB.
Regards,
Boqun
> Thanks
>
> Dirk
>
>
> > Without
> > this, when we get back from `bindings::schedule_timeout` in
> > `CondVar::wait_internal`, interrupts are enabled:
> >
> > ```rust
> > use kernel::{
> > hrtimer::{Timer, TimerCallback, TimerPointer, TimerRestart},
> > impl_has_timer, new_condvar, new_spinlock, new_spinlock_irq,
> > irq::IrqDisabled,
> > prelude::*,
> > sync::{Arc, ArcBorrow, CondVar, SpinLock, SpinLockIrq},
> > time::Ktime,
> > };
> >
> > #[pin_data]
> > struct ArcIntrusiveTimer {
> > #[pin]
> > timer: Timer<Self>,
> > #[pin]
> > flag: SpinLockIrq<u64>,
> > #[pin]
> > cond: CondVar,
> > }
> >
> > impl ArcIntrusiveTimer {
> > fn new() -> impl PinInit<Self, kernel::error::Error> {
> > try_pin_init!(Self {
> > timer <- Timer::new(),
> > flag <- new_spinlock_irq!(0),
> > cond <- new_condvar!(),
> > })
> > }
> > }
> >
> > impl TimerCallback for ArcIntrusiveTimer {
> > type CallbackTarget<'a> = Arc<Self>;
> > type CallbackTargetParameter<'a> = ArcBorrow<'a, Self>;
> >
> > fn run(this: Self::CallbackTargetParameter<'_>, irq: IrqDisabled<'_>) -> TimerRestart {
> > pr_info!("Timer called\n");
> > let mut guard = this.flag.lock_with(irq);
> > *guard += 1;
> > this.cond.notify_all();
> > if *guard == 5 {
> > TimerRestart::NoRestart
> > }
> > else {
> > TimerRestart::Restart
> >
> > }
> > }
> > }
> >
> > impl_has_timer! {
> > impl HasTimer<Self> for ArcIntrusiveTimer { self.timer }
> > }
> >
> >
> > let has_timer = Arc::pin_init(ArcIntrusiveTimer::new(), GFP_KERNEL)?;
> > let _handle = has_timer.clone().schedule(Ktime::from_ns(200_000_000));
> >
> > kernel::irq::with_irqs_disabled(|irq| {
> > let mut guard = has_timer.flag.lock_with(irq);
> >
> > while *guard != 5 {
> > pr_info!("Not 5 yet, waiting\n");
> > has_timer.cond.wait(&mut guard); // <-- we arrive back here with interrupts enabled!
> > }
> > });
> > ```
> >
> > I think an update of `CondVar::wait` should be part of the patch set [1].
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20240916213025.477225-1-lyude@redhat.com/
> >
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-11 23:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-17 22:27 [PATCH v2 00/14] hrtimer Rust API Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] rust: time: Add Ktime::from_ns() Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] rust: hrtimer: introduce hrtimer support Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-18 18:13 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-19 5:43 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19 14:09 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-23 16:35 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-23 16:59 ` Benno Lossin
2024-10-10 12:24 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] rust: sync: add `Arc::as_ptr` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19 14:03 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-21 15:58 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-21 18:17 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-23 8:14 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-01 4:56 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-01 8:39 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] rust: sync: add `Arc::clone_from_raw` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-18 18:19 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-18 20:12 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-18 21:09 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-19 6:00 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19 14:15 ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-20 8:25 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19 5:54 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19 6:19 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19 6:41 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `TimerPointer` for `Arc` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] rust: hrtimer: allow timer restart from timer handler Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-20 14:25 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] rust: hrtimer: add `UnsafeTimerPointer` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `UnsafeTimerPointer` for `Pin<&T>` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `UnsafeTimerPointer` for `Pin<&mut T>` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] rust: hrtimer: add `hrtimer::ScopedTimerPointer` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] rust: hrtimer: allow specifying a distinct callback parameter Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `TimerPointer` for `Pin<Box<T>>` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] rust: hrtimer: add `schedule_function` to schedule closures Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] rust: hrtimer: add maintainer entry Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-12 15:19 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-30 9:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] hrtimer Rust API Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-04 10:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-01 12:37 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-01 14:42 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-03 8:14 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-03 13:03 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-03 16:18 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-11 14:52 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-11 15:43 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-11 23:21 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2024-10-12 5:19 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-12 7:41 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-12 7:50 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-12 22:26 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-13 17:39 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-13 21:06 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-14 6:58 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-14 9:17 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-14 9:38 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-14 11:53 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-14 11:58 ` Alice Ryhl
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