From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@redhat.com>,
airlied@redhat.com, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
will@kernel.org, "Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
wedsonaf@gmail.com, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
aliceryhl@google.com, "Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [POC 1/6] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:20:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZxpzzExItrGMISp3@Boquns-Mac-mini.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zfmt6hk2.ffs@tglx>
On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 10:17:33AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23 2024 at 22:05, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 09:34:27PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> local_interrupt_enable()
> >> {
> >> if ((preempt_count() & LOCALIRQ_MASK) == LOCALIRQ_OFFSET) {
> >> local_irq_restore(this_cpu_read(...flags);
> >> preempt_count_sub_test_resched(LOCALIRQ_OFFSET);
> >> } else {
> >> // Does not need a resched test because it's not going
> >> // to 0
> >> preempt_count_sub(LOCALIRQ_OFFSET);
> >> }
> >> }
> >>
> >
> > Yes, this looks nice, one tiny problem is that it requires
> > PREEMPT_COUNT=y ;-) Maybe we can do: if PREEMPT_COUNT=y, we use preempt
> > count, otherwise use a percpu?
> >
> > Hmm... but this will essentially be: we have a irq_disable_count() which
> > is always built-in, and we also uses it as preempt count if
> > PREEMPT_COUNT=y. This doesn't look too bad to me.
>
> The preempt counter is always there even when PREEMPT_COUNT=n. It's
> required for tracking hard/soft interrupt and NMI context.
>
> The only difference is that preempt_disable()/enable() are NOOPs. So in
> that case preempt_count_sub_test_resched() becomes a plain preempt_count_sub().
>
Ah, good point!
> >> and then the lock thing becomes
> >>
> >> spin_lock_irq_disable()
> >> {
> >> local_interrupt_disable();
> >> lock();
> >> }
> >>
> >> spin_unlock_irq_enable()
> >> {
> >> unlock();
> >> local_interrupt_enable();
> >> }
> >>
> >> instead having to do:
> >>
> >> spin_unlock_irq_enable()
> >> {
> >> unlock();
> >> local_interrupt_enable();
> >> preempt_enable();
> >> }
> >>
> >> Which needs two distinct checks, one for the interrupt and one for the
> >
> > No? Because now since we fold the interrupt disable count into preempt
> > count, so we don't need to care about preempt count any more if we we
> > local_interrupt_{disable,enable}(). For example, in the above
> > local_interrupt_enable(), interrupts are checked at local_irq_restore()
> > and preemption is checked at preempt_count_sub_test_resched(). Right?
>
> Correct. That's what I pointed out. By folding it into preempt count
> this becomes one operation, while in your POC it's two distinct checks
> and operations.
>
Yes, I seemed to mis-read what you meant previously, much clear now, let
me put this into implementation for a POC v2.
Regards,
Boqun
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-24 16:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-16 21:28 [PATCH v6 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul
2024-09-16 21:28 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] rust: Introduce irq module Lyude Paul
2024-09-29 20:36 ` Trevor Gross
2024-09-29 23:45 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-02 20:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-04 8:58 ` Benno Lossin
2024-10-04 17:18 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 18:51 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-04 17:02 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-10 21:00 ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-16 21:28 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] rust: sync: Introduce lock::Backend::Context Lyude Paul
2024-09-29 20:40 ` Trevor Gross
2024-09-29 23:52 ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-16 21:28 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul
2024-09-29 20:50 ` Trevor Gross
2024-09-29 23:59 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-02 20:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-03 12:51 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-04 18:48 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-05 18:19 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-07 12:42 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 18:13 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-15 12:57 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-15 20:17 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-15 20:21 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-16 20:57 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 13:34 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-07 12:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-07 18:30 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-08 15:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-12 8:01 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-10 16:39 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Daniel Almeida
2024-10-12 5:29 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-13 19:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-13 21:43 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-16 21:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-16 21:31 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-17 20:49 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 22:27 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 5:51 ` [POC 0/6] Allow SpinLockIrq to use a normal Guard interface Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 5:51 ` [POC 1/6] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2024-10-21 7:04 ` kernel test robot
2024-10-21 7:35 ` kernel test robot
2024-10-21 20:44 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-24 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-23 19:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-23 19:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-23 20:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 10:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-24 17:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 21:57 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-25 15:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-25 18:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-24 19:12 ` Lyude Paul
2025-07-24 20:36 ` w/r/t "irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling": holes in pcpu_hot? Lyude Paul
2025-07-24 21:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 5:05 ` [POC 1/6] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2024-10-24 8:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 16:20 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2024-10-18 5:51 ` [POC 2/6] rust: Introduce interrupt module Boqun Feng
2024-10-31 20:45 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-31 20:47 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-18 5:51 ` [POC 3/6] rust: helper: Add spin_{un,}lock_irq_{enable,disable}() helpers Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 5:51 ` [POC 4/6] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 19:23 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-18 20:22 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 5:51 ` [POC 5/6] rust: sync: Introduce lock::Backend::Context Boqun Feng
2024-10-31 20:54 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-18 5:51 ` [POC 6/6] rust: sync: lock: Add `Backend::BackendInContext` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 10:22 ` [POC 0/6] Allow SpinLockIrq to use a normal Guard interface Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-18 12:42 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 11:16 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-18 16:05 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-31 20:56 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 20:42 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul
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