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From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Burak Emir" <bqe@google.com>,
	"Rasmus Villemoes" <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	"Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/5] rust: adds Bitmap API, ID pool and bindings
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 13:08:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aAkecEetYCFsq9XJ@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLggFUM=eJR2u06QsLMxXP+cJwm881ip+rze_sM=tXpA9og@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 06:19:18PM +0200, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 5:43 PM Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I received it twice - with timestamps 1:36 and 1:43. Assuming they are
> > identical, and ignoring the former.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 01:43:32PM +0000, Burak Emir wrote:
> > > This series adds a Rust bitmap API for porting the approach from
> > > commit 15d9da3f818c ("binder: use bitmap for faster descriptor lookup")
> > > to Rust. The functionality in dbitmap.h makes use of bitmap and bitops.
> > >
> > > The Rust bitmap API provides a safe abstraction to underlying bitmap
> > > and bitops operations. For now, only includes method necessary for
> > > dbitmap.h, more can be added later. We perform bounds checks for
> > > hardening, violations are programmer errors that result in panics.
> > >
> > > We include set_bit_atomic and clear_bit_atomic operations. One has
> > > to avoid races with non-atomic operations, which is ensure by the
> > > Rust type system: either callers have shared references &bitmap in
> > > which case the mutations are atomic operations. Or there is a
> > > exclusive reference &mut bitmap, in which case there is no concurrent
> > > access.
> >
> > It's not about shared references only. One can take a mutable
> > reference, and still may have a race:
> >
> > CPU1                            CPU2
> >
> > take mut ref
> > bitmap.set() // non-atomic
> > put mut ref
> >                                 take mut ref
> >                                 bitmap.test() // read as 0
> > data propagated to memory
> >                                 bitmap.test() // read as 1
> >
> > To make this scenario impossible, either put or take mut ref
> > should imply global cache flush, because bitmap array is not
> > an internal data for the Bitmap class (only the pointer is).
> >
> > I already asked you to point me to the specification that states that
> > taking mutable reference implies flushing all the caches to the point
> > of coherency, but you didn't share it. And I doubt that compiler does
> > it, for the performance considerations.
> 
> The flushing of caches and so on *is* implied. It doesn't happen every
> time you take a mutable reference, but for you to be able to take a
> mut ref on CPU2 after releasing it on CPU1, there must be a flush
> somewhere in between.

OK, that makes sense.
 
> I can try to find docs for it ...

Yes please, that would help a lot.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-23 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-23 13:43 [PATCH v7 0/5] rust: adds Bitmap API, ID pool and bindings Burak Emir
2025-04-23 13:43 ` [PATCH v7 1/5] rust: add bindings for bitmap.h Burak Emir
2025-04-23 15:46   ` Yury Norov
2025-04-23 13:43 ` [PATCH v7 2/5] rust: add bindings for bitops.h Burak Emir
2025-04-23 15:50   ` Yury Norov
2025-04-23 13:43 ` [PATCH v7 3/5] rust: add bitmap API Burak Emir
2025-04-23 16:46   ` Yury Norov
2025-04-28 10:21     ` Burak Emir
2025-04-23 13:43 ` [PATCH v7 4/5] rust: add find_bit_benchmark_rust module Burak Emir
2025-04-23 16:56   ` Yury Norov
2025-04-24 16:45     ` Burak Emir
2025-04-24 16:48       ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-24 22:31         ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-25 12:20           ` Burak Emir
2025-04-25 13:45             ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-25 16:17               ` Burak Emir
2025-04-26 13:03                 ` Yury Norov
2025-04-26 15:45                   ` Burak Emir
2025-04-28  9:36                 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-28 13:21                   ` Yury Norov
2025-04-29  8:09                     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-24 12:42   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-07 15:26   ` kernel test robot
2025-04-23 13:43 ` [PATCH v7 5/5] rust: add dynamic ID pool abstraction for bitmap Burak Emir
2025-04-23 15:43 ` [PATCH v7 0/5] rust: adds Bitmap API, ID pool and bindings Yury Norov
2025-04-23 16:19   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-23 16:30     ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-23 17:11       ` Yury Norov
2025-04-23 17:30         ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-23 17:34         ` Yury Norov
2025-04-23 17:52           ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-23 18:00             ` Yury Norov
2025-04-23 19:45               ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-23 17:08     ` Yury Norov [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-04-23 13:36 Burak Emir

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