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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] rust: irq: add support for request_irq()
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 14:45:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aCXh1g5FWNiz7exb@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39C56E3E-07C6-44BB-B5F6-38090F037032@collabora.com>

On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 09:27:51AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 15 May 2025, at 09:04, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 08:54:35AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> >> Hi Danilo,
> >> 
> >>> On 14 May 2025, at 18:53, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 04:20:51PM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> >>>> +/// // This is running in process context.
> >>>> +/// fn register_irq(irq: u32, handler: Handler) -> Result<Arc<Registration<Handler>>> {
> >>>> +///     let registration = Registration::register(irq, flags::SHARED, c_str!("my-device"), handler);
> >>>> +///
> >>>> +///     // You can have as many references to the registration as you want, so
> >>>> +///     // multiple parts of the driver can access it.
> >>>> +///     let registration = Arc::pin_init(registration, GFP_KERNEL)?;
> >>> 
> >>> This makes it possible to arbitrarily extend the lifetime of an IRQ
> >>> registration. However, we must guarantee that the IRQ is unregistered when the
> >>> corresponding device is unbound. We can't allow drivers to hold on to device
> >>> resources after the corresponding device has been unbound.
> >>> 
> >>> Why does the data need to be part of the IRQ registration itself? Why can't we
> >>> pass in an Arc<T> instance already when we register the IRQ?
> >>> 
> >>> This way we'd never have a reason to ever access the Registration instance
> >>> itself ever again and we can easily wrap it as Devres<irq::Registration> -
> >>> analogously to devm_request_irq() on the C side - without any penalties.
> >>> 
> >>>> +///     // The handler may be called immediately after the function above
> >>>> +///     // returns, possibly in a different CPU.
> >>>> +///
> >>>> +///     {
> >>>> +///         // The data can be accessed from the process context too.
> >>>> +///         let mut data = registration.handler().0.lock();
> >>>> +///         *data = 42;
> >>>> +///     }
> >>>> +///
> >>>> +///     Ok(registration)
> >>>> +/// }
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Up until this point, there was no need for the data to not be inline with the
> >> registration. This new design would force an Arc, which, apart from the
> >> heap-allocation, is restrictive for users.
> > 
> > Does the current design not also imply a heap allocation heap allocation? With
> > my proposal irq::Registration::new() can just return an irq::Registration
> > instance, not an impl PinInit that you need to stuff into a Box or Arc instead.
> > Hence, there shouldn't be a difference.
> 
> Well, not really, because this impl PinInit can be assigned to something larger
> that is already pinned, like drm::Device::Data for example, which is (or was)
> already behind an Arc, or any other private data in other subsystems.
> 
> IIUC what you proposed has yet another indirection. If we reuse the example
> from above, that would be an Arc for the drm Data, and another Arc for the
> handler itself?

Can't you implement Handler for drm::Device::Data and e.g. make Registration
take an Arc<T: Handler>?

The irq::Registration itself doesn't need to be allocated dynamically, so it'd
still be a single allocation, no?

> I definitely see your point here, I am just trying to brainstorm another way of
> doing this.
> > 
> >> Can’t we use Devres with the current implementation?
> >> 
> >> IIUC from a very cursory glance, all that would mean is that you'd have to call
> >> try_access() on your handler, which should be fine?
> > 
> > Well, that would work indeed.
> > 
> > But people will - with good reason - be upset that every access to the handler's
> > data needs to be guarded with the RCU read side critical section implied by
> > Revocable and hence Devres.
> 
> True, I totally missed that.
> 
> > 
> > We can easily avoid that in this case, hence we should do it.
> 
> — Daniel
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-15 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-14 19:20 [PATCH v3 0/2] rust: add support for request_irq Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] rust: irq: add support for request_irq() Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 20:04   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 20:58     ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 21:03       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15  8:46       ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-15 12:06         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15 12:44           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-02 15:20     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-04  7:36       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-04  7:48         ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-04  9:43           ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 21:53   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-15 11:54     ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15 12:04       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-15 12:27         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15 12:45           ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-05-15 13:16             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15 13:45               ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-15 13:52                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-02 14:40                   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-02 17:35                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-02 16:02                   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-15 13:28             ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-02 16:19     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-02 17:31       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03  8:28         ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-03  8:46           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03  8:54             ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-03  9:10               ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03  9:18                 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-03  9:43                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03  9:57                     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-03 10:08                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03 10:16                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-04 18:32                           ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-04 18:57                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-18 13:24   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 14:07     ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] rust: platform: add irq accessors Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 20:06   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 10:41   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-02 14:56     ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-02 17:45       ` Danilo Krummrich

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