From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] rust: irq: add support for request_irq()
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 14:45:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aCXh1g5FWNiz7exb@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39C56E3E-07C6-44BB-B5F6-38090F037032@collabora.com>
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 09:27:51AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
>
>
> > On 15 May 2025, at 09:04, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 08:54:35AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> >> Hi Danilo,
> >>
> >>> On 14 May 2025, at 18:53, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 04:20:51PM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> >>>> +/// // This is running in process context.
> >>>> +/// fn register_irq(irq: u32, handler: Handler) -> Result<Arc<Registration<Handler>>> {
> >>>> +/// let registration = Registration::register(irq, flags::SHARED, c_str!("my-device"), handler);
> >>>> +///
> >>>> +/// // You can have as many references to the registration as you want, so
> >>>> +/// // multiple parts of the driver can access it.
> >>>> +/// let registration = Arc::pin_init(registration, GFP_KERNEL)?;
> >>>
> >>> This makes it possible to arbitrarily extend the lifetime of an IRQ
> >>> registration. However, we must guarantee that the IRQ is unregistered when the
> >>> corresponding device is unbound. We can't allow drivers to hold on to device
> >>> resources after the corresponding device has been unbound.
> >>>
> >>> Why does the data need to be part of the IRQ registration itself? Why can't we
> >>> pass in an Arc<T> instance already when we register the IRQ?
> >>>
> >>> This way we'd never have a reason to ever access the Registration instance
> >>> itself ever again and we can easily wrap it as Devres<irq::Registration> -
> >>> analogously to devm_request_irq() on the C side - without any penalties.
> >>>
> >>>> +/// // The handler may be called immediately after the function above
> >>>> +/// // returns, possibly in a different CPU.
> >>>> +///
> >>>> +/// {
> >>>> +/// // The data can be accessed from the process context too.
> >>>> +/// let mut data = registration.handler().0.lock();
> >>>> +/// *data = 42;
> >>>> +/// }
> >>>> +///
> >>>> +/// Ok(registration)
> >>>> +/// }
> >>>
> >>
> >> Up until this point, there was no need for the data to not be inline with the
> >> registration. This new design would force an Arc, which, apart from the
> >> heap-allocation, is restrictive for users.
> >
> > Does the current design not also imply a heap allocation heap allocation? With
> > my proposal irq::Registration::new() can just return an irq::Registration
> > instance, not an impl PinInit that you need to stuff into a Box or Arc instead.
> > Hence, there shouldn't be a difference.
>
> Well, not really, because this impl PinInit can be assigned to something larger
> that is already pinned, like drm::Device::Data for example, which is (or was)
> already behind an Arc, or any other private data in other subsystems.
>
> IIUC what you proposed has yet another indirection. If we reuse the example
> from above, that would be an Arc for the drm Data, and another Arc for the
> handler itself?
Can't you implement Handler for drm::Device::Data and e.g. make Registration
take an Arc<T: Handler>?
The irq::Registration itself doesn't need to be allocated dynamically, so it'd
still be a single allocation, no?
> I definitely see your point here, I am just trying to brainstorm another way of
> doing this.
> >
> >> Can’t we use Devres with the current implementation?
> >>
> >> IIUC from a very cursory glance, all that would mean is that you'd have to call
> >> try_access() on your handler, which should be fine?
> >
> > Well, that would work indeed.
> >
> > But people will - with good reason - be upset that every access to the handler's
> > data needs to be guarded with the RCU read side critical section implied by
> > Revocable and hence Devres.
>
> True, I totally missed that.
>
> >
> > We can easily avoid that in this case, hence we should do it.
>
> — Daniel
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-15 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-14 19:20 [PATCH v3 0/2] rust: add support for request_irq Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] rust: irq: add support for request_irq() Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 20:04 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 20:58 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 21:03 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15 8:46 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-15 12:06 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15 12:44 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-02 15:20 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-04 7:36 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-04 7:48 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-04 9:43 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 21:53 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-15 11:54 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15 12:04 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-15 12:27 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15 12:45 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-05-15 13:16 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15 13:45 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-15 13:52 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-02 14:40 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-02 17:35 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-02 16:02 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-15 13:28 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-02 16:19 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-02 17:31 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03 8:28 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-03 8:46 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03 8:54 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-03 9:10 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03 9:18 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-03 9:43 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03 9:57 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-03 10:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-03 10:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-04 18:32 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-04 18:57 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-18 13:24 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 14:07 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 19:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] rust: platform: add irq accessors Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 20:06 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 10:41 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-02 14:56 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-02 17:45 ` Danilo Krummrich
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