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From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org, ojeda@kernel.org,
	alex.gaynor@gmail.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net,
	bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, benno.lossin@proton.me,
	a.hindborg@kernel.org, aliceryhl@google.com, tmgross@umich.edu,
	chrisi.schrefl@gmail.com, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] rust: miscdevice: properly support device drivers
Date: Sat, 31 May 2025 12:33:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aDrbAWtDRPP80-xO@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DAA6VHUTDC13.3FLLGNXYINO9I@kernel.org>

On Sat, May 31, 2025 at 10:05:28AM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On Sat May 31, 2025 at 12:17 AM CEST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> > On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 10:06:55PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> >> On Fri May 30, 2025 at 4:24 PM CEST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> >> > -impl<T: MiscDevice> MiscDeviceRegistration<T> {
> >> > -    /// Register a misc device.
> >> > -    pub fn register(
> >> > +impl<T: MiscDevice> RawDeviceRegistration<T> {
> >> > +    fn new<'a>(
> >> >          opts: MiscDeviceOptions,
> >> > -        data: impl PinInit<T::RegistrationData, Error>,
> >> > -    ) -> impl PinInit<Self, Error> {
> >> > +        parent: Option<&'a Device<Bound>>,
> >> > +        data: &'a T::RegistrationData,
> >> > +    ) -> impl PinInit<Self, Error> + 'a
> >> > +    where
> >> > +        T: 'a,
> >> > +    {
> >> >          try_pin_init!(Self {
> >> > -            data <- Opaque::pin_init(data),
> >> > +            // INVARIANT: `Self` is always embedded in a `MiscDeviceRegistration<T>`, hence `data`
> >> > +            // is guaranteed to be valid for the entire lifetime of `Self`.
> >> > +            data: NonNull::from(data),
> >> 
> >> Both the argument in the INVARIANT comment and way this works are a bit
> >> flawed.
> >
> > Why is the argument flawed? Let's say we go with your proposal below, what would
> > the safety requirement for RawDeviceRegistration::new and the invariant of
> > RawDeviceRegistration look like? Wouldn't it be the exact same argument?
> 
> So what I write below it not really true. But the argument relies on the
> fact that `data` is pointing to a value that will stay alive for the
> duration of the existence of `self`. That should be a safety requirement
> of `new` (even if we take a reference as an argument).

Ok, that's fair -- I'll add the safety requirement.

> >> Instead, I'd recommend directly taking the `NonNull` as a
> >> parameter. Yes the function will need to be `unsafe`, but the lifetime
> >> that you're creating below only lives for `'a`, but the object might
> >> live much longer. You might still be fine, but I'd just recommend
> >> staying in raw pointer land (or in this case `NonNull`).

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-31 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-30 14:24 [PATCH 0/7] misc device: support device drivers Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 14:24 ` [PATCH 1/7] rust: types: support fallible PinInit types in Opaque::pin_init Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 16:14   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-30 19:29   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-30 20:11     ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-30 21:27       ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-30 21:52       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 14:24 ` [PATCH 2/7] rust: revocable: support fallible PinInit types Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 16:15   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-30 19:31   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-30 14:24 ` [PATCH 3/7] rust: devres: support fallible in-place init for data Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 16:18   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-30 19:33   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-30 14:24 ` [PATCH 4/7] rust: faux: impl AsRef<Device<Bound>> for Registration Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 14:24 ` [PATCH 5/7] rust: miscdevice: properly support device drivers Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 17:35   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-30 18:38     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 20:06   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-30 22:17     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-31  8:05       ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-31 10:33         ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-05-30 14:24 ` [PATCH 6/7] rust: miscdevice: expose the parent device as &Device<Bound> Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-31  8:27   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-31 10:46     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-31 12:10       ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-31 12:39         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-31 15:23           ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-30 14:24 ` [PATCH 7/7] rust: sample: misc: implement device driver sample Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 20:15   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-30 22:24     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-31  8:11       ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-31 10:29         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-31 12:03           ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-31 12:24             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-31 11:05         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-05-30 16:37 ` [PATCH 0/7] misc device: support device drivers Christian Schrefl
2025-05-30 17:29   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-30 19:24     ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-30 19:35       ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-30 19:36         ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-30 18:45   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-30 19:25 ` Benno Lossin

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