From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
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"Abdiel Janulgue" <abdiel.janulgue@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] rust: add initial scatterlist bindings
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 09:18:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEHDS0YPmkB4Uto_@Mac.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250605160204.GC44681@ziepe.ca>
On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 01:02:04PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 08:35:59AM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > Late to the party, but seems to me the main problem here is that we
> > cannot pass a reference to .set_page(), note that there is some work
> > that would change the Rust struct Page from a `*mut page` to a
> > `page`[0], and then we can impl Ownable[1] and AlwaysRefCounted for
> > `Page`, if that's done, then I believe the correct parameter for
> > set_page() would be an ARef<Page>.
>
> There are alot of things that want to go into scatterlists that don't
> have struct pages that are refcountable (eg frozen pages used by
> kmalloc).
>
I see.
> So I don't think you want to go in the direction of forcing
> struct page refcounting in scatter table. That is not how the C API
> works for good reason.
>
Ok, that's fair.
> I also don't think it is a good idea to push more struct page stuff
> into Rust as we are trying to eliminate struct page from the
Well, that's why I suggested Owned<Page> and ARef<Folio>, but let's not
get too deep into that direction unless necessary ;-)
> kernel. It is better for rust to stick to KVAs and convert to struct
> page in core code only where absolutely necessary for someon reason.
>
Sounds reasonable to me for now.
Regards,
Boqun
> Which is another part of why I suggested set_page should not be part
> of the driver facing rust API for scatterlist.
>
> Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-05 16:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-28 22:14 [PATCH 0/2] rust: add initial scatterlist abstraction Abdiel Janulgue
2025-05-28 22:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] rust: add initial scatterlist bindings Abdiel Janulgue
2025-05-29 0:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-29 14:14 ` Petr Tesařík
2025-05-29 14:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30 14:02 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 14:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30 14:44 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 14:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30 15:18 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-31 12:54 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-02 11:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-02 12:25 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-06-02 12:41 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-04 18:21 ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-05 5:51 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-05 13:30 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-06-05 13:56 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-09 17:44 ` Lyude Paul
2025-06-18 1:03 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-26 20:31 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-06-26 22:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-26 23:44 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-28 11:07 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-05 13:22 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-06-28 11:18 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-30 7:11 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-06-05 15:35 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-05 16:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-05 16:18 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-05-30 11:04 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-28 22:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] samples: rust: add sample code for " Abdiel Janulgue
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