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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	lkmm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
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	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 03/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 10:30:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEhrzxltkdnub_bR@tardis.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DAIQG9ALK4QC.2P2C2MC4U9YVX@kernel.org>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 11:07:16AM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On Tue Jun 10, 2025 at 12:46 AM CEST, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > Preparation for atomic primitives. Instead of a suffix like _acquire, a
> > method parameter along with the corresponding generic parameter will be
> > used to specify the ordering of an atomic operations. For example,
> > atomic load() can be defined as:
> >
> > 	impl<T: ...> Atomic<T> {
> > 	    pub fn load<O: AcquireOrRelaxed>(&self, _o: O) -> T { ... }
> > 	}
> >
> > and acquire users would do:
> >
> > 	let r = x.load(Acquire);
> >
> > relaxed users:
> >
> > 	let r = x.load(Relaxed);
> >
> > doing the following:
> >
> > 	let r = x.load(Release);
> >
> > will cause a compiler error.
> >
> > Compared to suffixes, it's easier to tell what ordering variants an
> > operation has, and it also make it easier to unify the implementation of
> > all ordering variants in one method via generic. The `IS_RELAXED` and
> > `ORDER` associate consts are for generic function to pick up the
> > particular implementation specified by an ordering annotation.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> 
> Looks good, I got a few comments on the details below.
> 

Thanks for taking a look!

> > ---
> >  rust/kernel/sync/atomic.rs          |  3 +
> >  rust/kernel/sync/atomic/ordering.rs | 94 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  2 files changed, 97 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 rust/kernel/sync/atomic/ordering.rs
> >
> > diff --git a/rust/kernel/sync/atomic.rs b/rust/kernel/sync/atomic.rs
> > index 65e41dba97b7..9fe5d81fc2a9 100644
> > --- a/rust/kernel/sync/atomic.rs
> > +++ b/rust/kernel/sync/atomic.rs
> > @@ -17,3 +17,6 @@
> >  //! [`LKMM`]: srctree/tools/memory-mode/
> >  
> >  pub mod ops;
> > +pub mod ordering;
> > +
> > +pub use ordering::{Acquire, Full, Relaxed, Release};
> > diff --git a/rust/kernel/sync/atomic/ordering.rs b/rust/kernel/sync/atomic/ordering.rs
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..14cda8c5d1b1
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/rust/kernel/sync/atomic/ordering.rs
> > @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@
> > +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > +
> > +//! Memory orderings.
> > +//!
> > +//! The semantics of these orderings follows the [`LKMM`] definitions and rules.
> > +//!
> > +//! - [`Acquire`] and [`Release`] are similar to their counterpart in Rust memory model.
> > +//! - [`Full`] means "fully-ordered", that is:
> > +//!   - It provides ordering between all the preceding memory accesses and the annotated operation.
> > +//!   - It provides ordering between the annotated operation and all the following memory accesses.
> > +//!   - It provides ordering between all the preceding memory accesses and all the fllowing memory
> > +//!     accesses.
> > +//!   - All the orderings are the same strong as a full memory barrier (i.e. `smp_mb()`).
> 
> s/strong/strength/ ?
> 

Good catch.

> > +//! - [`Relaxed`] is similar to the counterpart in Rust memory model, except that dependency
> > +//!   orderings are also honored in [`LKMM`]. Dependency orderings are described in "DEPENDENCY
> > +//!   RELATIONS" in [`LKMM`]'s [`explanation`].
> > +//!
> > +//! [`LKMM`]: srctree/tools/memory-model/
> > +//! [`explanation`]: srctree/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
> > +
> > +/// The annotation type for relaxed memory ordering.
> > +pub struct Relaxed;
> > +
> > +/// The annotation type for acquire memory ordering.
> > +pub struct Acquire;
> > +
> > +/// The annotation type for release memory ordering.
> > +pub struct Release;
> > +
> > +/// The annotation type for fully-order memory ordering.
> > +pub struct Full;
> 
> Is this ordering only ever used in combination with itself? (Since you
> don't have a `FullOrAcquire` trait)
> 

Yes, `Full` is an ordering that is stronger than `Acquire`.

> > +
> > +/// The trait bound for operations that only support relaxed ordering.
> > +pub trait RelaxedOnly: AcquireOrRelaxed + ReleaseOrRelaxed + All {}
> > +
> > +impl RelaxedOnly for Relaxed {}
> > +
> > +/// The trait bound for operations that only support acquire or relaxed ordering.
> > +pub trait AcquireOrRelaxed: All {
> > +    /// Describes whether an ordering is relaxed or not.
> > +    const IS_RELAXED: bool = false;
> > +}
> > +
> > +impl AcquireOrRelaxed for Acquire {}
> > +
> > +impl AcquireOrRelaxed for Relaxed {
> > +    const IS_RELAXED: bool = true;
> > +}
> > +
> > +/// The trait bound for operations that only support release or relaxed ordering.
> > +pub trait ReleaseOrRelaxed: All {
> > +    /// Describes whether an ordering is relaxed or not.
> > +    const IS_RELAXED: bool = false;
> > +}
> > +
> > +impl ReleaseOrRelaxed for Release {}
> > +
> > +impl ReleaseOrRelaxed for Relaxed {
> > +    const IS_RELAXED: bool = true;
> > +}
> > +
> > +/// Describes the exact memory ordering of an `impl` [`All`].
> > +pub enum OrderingDesc {
> 
> Why not name this `Ordering`?
> 

I was trying to avoid having an `Ordering` enum in a `ordering` mod.
Also I want to save the name "Ordering" for the generic type parameter
of an atomic operation, e.g.

    pub fn xchg<Ordering: ALL>(..)

this enum is more of an internal implementation detail, and users should
not use this enum directly, so I would like to avoid potential
confusion.

I have played a few sealed trait tricks on my end, but seems I cannot
achieve:

1) `OrderingDesc` is only accessible in the atomic mod.
2) `All` is only impl-able in the atomic mod, while it can be used as a
trait bound outside kernel crate.

Maybe there is a trick I'm missing?

> > +    /// Relaxed ordering.
> > +    Relaxed,
> > +    /// Acquire ordering.
> > +    Acquire,
> > +    /// Release ordering.
> > +    Release,
> > +    /// Fully-ordered.
> > +    Full,
> > +}
> > +
> > +/// The trait bound for annotating operations that should support all orderings.
> > +pub trait All {
> > +    /// Describes the exact memory ordering.
> > +    const ORDER: OrderingDesc;
> 
> And then here: `ORDERING`.

Make sense, thanks!

Regards,
Boqun

> 
> ---
> Cheers,
> Benno
> 
> > +}
> > +
> > +impl All for Relaxed {
> > +    const ORDER: OrderingDesc = OrderingDesc::Relaxed;
> > +}
> > +
> > +impl All for Acquire {
> > +    const ORDER: OrderingDesc = OrderingDesc::Acquire;
> > +}
> > +
> > +impl All for Release {
> > +    const ORDER: OrderingDesc = OrderingDesc::Release;
> > +}
> > +
> > +impl All for Full {
> > +    const ORDER: OrderingDesc = OrderingDesc::Full;
> > +}
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-10 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-09 22:46 [PATCH v4 00/10] LKMM generic atomics in Rust Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] rust: Introduce atomic API helpers Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] rust: sync: Add basic atomic operation mapping framework Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types Boqun Feng
2025-06-10  9:07   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-10 17:30     ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-06-10 17:58       ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-10 18:53         ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-11  6:40           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add generic atomics Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add atomic {cmp,}xchg operations Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add the framework of arithmetic operations Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<u{32,64}> Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<{usize,isize}> Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<*mut T> Boqun Feng
2025-06-09 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] rust: sync: Add memory barriers Boqun Feng

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