From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
alex.gaynor@gmail.com, ojeda@kernel.org, aliceryhl@google.com,
anna-maria@linutronix.de, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
dakr@kernel.org, frederic@kernel.org, gary@garyguo.net,
jstultz@google.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
lossin@kernel.org, lyude@redhat.com,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, sboyd@kernel.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, tmgross@umich.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: time: Seal the ClockSource trait
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:29:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFMTsz63qOo5LQOE@tardis.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tt4c983g.fsf@kernel.org>
On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 09:13:07PM +0200, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> "Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 05:10:42PM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 08:20:53AM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> >> > Prevent downstream crates or drivers from implementing `ClockSource`
> >> > for arbitrary types, which could otherwise leads to unsupported
> >> > behavior.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Hmm.. I don't think other impl of `ClockSource` is a problem, IIUC, as
> >> long as the ktime_get() can return a value in [0, i64::MAX). Also this
> >> means ClockSource should be an `unsafe` trait, because the correct
> >> implementaion relies on ktime_get() returns the correct value. This is
> >> needed even if you sealed ClockSource trait.
> >>
> >> Could you drop this and fix that the ClockSource trait instead? Thanks!
> >>
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > /// Trait for clock sources.
> > ///
> > /// ...
> > /// # Safety
> > ///
> > /// Implementers must ensure `ktime_get()` return a value in [0,
> > // KTIME_MAX (i.e. i64::MAX)).
> > pub unsafe trait ClockSource {
> > ...
> > }
>
> Nice catch, it definitely needs to be unsafe. We should also require
> correlation between ID and the value fetched by `ktime_get`.
>
> But I still think it is fine to seal the trait, why not?
>
There could be potential users of a customized clock source, for
example, a device which also has a timestamp register itself:
https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/Z9xb1r1x5tOzAIZT@boqun-archlinux/
So I think with ClockSource being unsafe and well documented, making it
not sealed wouldn't be a problem. IMO, sealing is for the cases where we
must not have downstream impls, ClockSource is not such a case.
Regards,
Boqun
>
> Best regards,
> Andreas Hindborg
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-18 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-17 23:20 [PATCH] rust: time: Seal the ClockSource trait FUJITA Tomonori
2025-06-18 0:10 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 5:01 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 19:13 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 19:29 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-06-19 0:23 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-06-19 0:27 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-19 0:28 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-06-19 9:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 11:33 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-06-19 12:57 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 13:38 ` Boqun Feng
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