From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Maurer <mmaurer@google.com>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Sami Tolvanen" <samitolvanen@google.com>,
"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 6/6] rust: samples: Add debugfs sample
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 21:40:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGQ5mO6WjQb9Wq8f@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGSQo02tdxoqTE1z5_M8g0PpXYEdWr4Yy31yaoPK8C_O2G_QoQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 11:32:42AM -0700, Matthew Maurer wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 10:34 AM Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 10:24:04AM -0700, Matthew Maurer wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 7:03 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > > <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 11:18:29PM +0000, Matthew Maurer wrote:
> > > > > + // An `Arc<Mutex<usize>>` doesn't implement display, so let's give explicit instructions on
> > > > > + // how to print it
> > > > > + let file_2 = sub.fmt_file(c_str!("arc_backed"), my_arc.clone(), &|val, f| {
> > > > > + writeln!(f, "locked value: {:#010x}", *val.lock())
> > > > > + });
> > > >
> > > > While cute, is this really going to be the way to describe all "custom"
> > > > debugfs function callbacks? No other way to point to a function itself
> > > > instead? Look at "fun" debugfs functions like qh_lines() in
> > > > drivers/usb/host/ehci-dbg.c that is dumping tons of data out. Putting
> > > > that inline here is going to be a bit ackward :)
> > >
> > > Good news, function pointers are legal to pass in here as well
> > > already, I can add that usage to make it clear.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > So can you show an example of a "traditional" debugfs file output with
> > > > multiple lines that is dealing with a dynamically allocated device that
> > > > is associated with the module (not the static example you showed here),
> > > > as that's going to be the real way this is used, not with static
> > > > variables.
> > >
> > > Sure, do we want to:
> > > * Finish creating the driver struct early in `init`, then call dynamic
> > > `.create(&str)` or `.destroy(&str)` `.modify(&str)` type things on it
> > > in `init` to show how it would work
> > > * Actually wire up an input source to drive create/destroy/modify
> > > dynamically (e.g. I could implement a miscdevice) - if you want this
> > > one, do you have a preference on where I get my input signal from?
> >
> > I think the idea was to show how it works in a real driver context, e.g. a
> > platform driver, just like what samples/rust/rust_driver_platform.rs does. Not a
> > miscdevice registered from a module, which is a rather rare use-case.
> >
> > If you rebase on the latest driver-core-next, you can write a platform driver
> > with an ACPI ID table, which can easily probed by passing
> > `-acpitable file=ssdt.aml` to qemu, i.e. no need to mess with OF.
>
> I'm confused as to how registering as a platform driver would result
> in an input source that would let me trigger the creation/destruction
> of DebugFS files. I need some kind of input stream to do that. Is
> there some input stream that's available to a platform driver that I'm
> missing, or are you suggesting that the input stream would effectively
> be the probe's `id_info` field? If I did that, wouldn't I still have a
> static arrangement of DebugFS files in my driver struct?
If it's about having some dynamic input stream, creating an example with a
platform driver clearly doesn't help by itself.
But that wasn't my understanding. My understanding was that the request is to
show it in a driver context, where you won't get away with statics. :)
But that's maybe because *I* would like to focus more on this case, because it's
the common one.
> I could have misunderstood, but I don't think that's what Greg is
> asking for - I think he wants to see how at a data structure level, I
> can handle creating and destroying DebugFS files that correspond to
> some kind of object being created and destroyed, rather than just
> having a static list of slots in my driver struct for keeping them
> alive.
If that's the request, you could simply create a function that returns a
Vec with some random entries and then you just iterate over it in
Driver::probe() or Module::init()?
I don't know if that case is too interesting, since conceptually it doesn't make
a huge difference to the case where you have a single instance, i.e.
Current
-------
struct Bar {
a: A,
b: B,
}
// Single.
struct Foo {
bar: Arc<Bar>,
bar_file: File,
}
// Multiple.
struct Foo {
bars: Vec<Arc<Bar>>
bar_files: Vec<File>, // contains a File for each field for every Bar
}
Proposed (pin-init)
-------------------
struct Bar {
a: File<A>,
b: File<B>,
}
// Single.
struct Foo {
bar: Bar,
}
// Multiple.
struct Foo {
bar: Vec<Bar>
}
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-01 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-27 23:18 [PATCH v8 0/6] rust: DebugFS Bindings Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] rust: debugfs: Bind DebugFS directory creation Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] rust: debugfs: Bind file creation for long-lived Display Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] rust: types: Support &'static and &'static mut ForeignOwnable Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 11:41 ` Dirk Behme
2025-07-01 11:46 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] rust: debugfs: Support arbitrary owned backing for File Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 17:29 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 17:34 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 17:36 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 17:39 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 17:49 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 18:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 13:58 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-01 14:13 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 14:21 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-01 15:10 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 18:11 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 19:21 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 19:46 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 19:58 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 20:03 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 20:09 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 20:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 21:53 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 22:26 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 20:07 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 10:02 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-03 10:33 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 10:54 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-03 11:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-03 12:29 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-03 12:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-03 14:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-03 13:34 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 14:04 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-03 13:35 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 13:38 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-03 12:34 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 12:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-03 11:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] rust: debugfs: Support format hooks Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] rust: samples: Add debugfs sample Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 14:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-01 17:24 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 17:34 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 18:32 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 19:40 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-07-01 10:57 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] rust: DebugFS Bindings Alice Ryhl
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