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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	lkmm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 4/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add generic atomics
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 08:32:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aHUjIQlqphtgVP2g@Mac.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBBVD70MASPW.2LUTJ51Y6SGMI@kernel.org>

On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 05:05:40PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
[...]
> >> >  //!
> >> >  //! [`LKMM`]: srctree/tools/memory-model/
> >> >  
> >> > +pub mod generic;
> >> 
> >> Hmm, maybe just re-export the stuff? I don't think there's an advantage
> >> to having the generic module be public.
> >> 
> >
> > If `generic` is not public, then in the kernel::sync::atomic page, it
> > won't should up, and there is no mentioning of struct `Atomic` either.
> >
> > If I made it public and also re-export the `Atomic`, there would be a
> > "Re-export" section mentioning all the re-exports, so I will keep
> > `generic` unless you have some tricks that I don't know.
> 
> Just use `#[doc(inline)]` :)
> 
>     https://doc.rust-lang.org/rustdoc/write-documentation/the-doc-attribute.html#inline-and-no_inline
> 
> > Also I feel it's a bit naturally that `AllowAtomic` and `AllowAtomicAdd`
> > stay under `generic` (instead of re-export them at `atomic` mod level)
> > because they are about the generic part of `Atomic`, right?
> 
> Why is that more natural? It only adds an extra path layer in any import
> for atomics.
> 

Exactly, users need to go through extra steps if they want to use the
"generic" part of the atomic, and I think that makes user more aware of
what they are essentially doing:

- If you want to use the predefined types for atomic, just

  use kernel::sync::atomic::Atomic;

  and just operate on an `Atomic<_>`.

- If you want to bring your own type for atomic operations, you need to

  use kernel::sync::atomic::generic::AllowAtomic;

  (essentially you go into the "generic" part of the atomic)

  and provide your own implementation for `AllowAtomic` and then you
  could use it for your own type.

I feel it's natural because for extra features you fetch more modules
in.

Regards,
Boqun

> Unless you at some point want to add `concrete::Atomic<T>` etc, I would
> just re-export them.
> 
[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-14 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-14  5:36 [PATCH v7 0/9] LKMM generic atomics in Rust Boqun Feng
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 1/9] rust: Introduce atomic API helpers Boqun Feng
2025-07-16  9:23   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-16 12:36     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-16 12:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-16 12:54       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-16 12:57         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-16 13:04           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-16 12:56       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 2/9] rust: sync: Add basic atomic operation mapping framework Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 10:03   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 13:42     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 15:00       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 15:34         ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 3/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 10:10   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 14:59     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 15:16       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 4/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add generic atomics Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 10:30   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 14:21     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 14:30       ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 14:34       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-14 14:53         ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 15:16           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 15:05       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 15:32         ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-07-15  9:36           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-15 13:14             ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-15 15:35               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 5/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add atomic {cmp,}xchg operations Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 10:56   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 6/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add the framework of arithmetic operations Boqun Feng
2025-07-15 11:21   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-15 13:33     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-15 15:45       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-15 16:13         ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-15 18:39           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-15 20:13             ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-16 10:25               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-16 14:13                 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-16 15:36                   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-16 15:48                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-16 17:16                       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-16 17:38                         ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 7/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<u{32,64}> Boqun Feng
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 8/9] rust: sync: Add memory barriers Boqun Feng
2025-07-14  5:36 ` [PATCH v7 9/9] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<{usize,isize}> Boqun Feng
2025-07-14 11:06   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-14 13:47     ` Boqun Feng

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