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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
Cc: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Matthew Brost" <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Steven Price" <steven.price@arm.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Liviu Dudau" <liviu.dudau@arm.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] drm/gpuvm: add deferred vm_bo cleanup
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 08:26:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aL6TJYRmWIkQXujj@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250908091140.44856fde@fedora>

On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 09:11:40AM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> Hi Alice,
> 
> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 11:39:41 +0000
> Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
> 
> > Yeah I guess we could have unlink remove the gpuva, but then allow the
> > end-user to attach the gpuva to a list of gpuvas to kfree deferred. That
> > way, the drm_gpuva_unlink() is not deferred but any resources it has can
> > be.
> 
> This ^.
> 
> > 
> > Of course, this approach also makes deferred gpuva cleanup somewhat
> > orthogonal to this patch.
> 
> Well, yes and no, because if you go for gpuva deferred cleanup, you
> don't really need the fancy kref_put() you have in this patch, it's
> just a regular vm_bo_put() that's called in the deferred gpuva path on
> the vm_bo attached to the gpuva being released.

Ok, so what you suggest is that on gpuva_unlink() we remove the gpuva
from the vm_bo's list, but then instead of putting the vm_bo's refcount,
we add the gpuva to a list, and in the deferred cleanup codepath we
iterate gpuvas and drop vm_bo refcounts *at that point*. Is that
understood correctly?

That means we don't immediately remove the vm_bo from the gem.gpuva
list, but the gpuva list in the vm_bo will be empty. I guess you already
have to handle such vm_bos anyway since you can already have an empty
vm_bo in between vm_bo_obtain() and the first call to gpuva_link().

One disadvantage is that we might end up preparing or unevicting a GEM
object that doesn't have any VAs left, which the current approach
avoids.

> > One annoying part is that we don't have an gpuvm ops operation for
> > freeing gpuva, and if we add one for this, it would *only* be used in
> > this case as most drivers explicitly kfree gpuvas, which could be
> > confusing for end-users.
> 
> Also not sure ::vm_bo_free() was meant to be used like that. It was for
> drivers that need to control the drm_gpuvm_bo allocation, not those
> that rely on the default implementation (kmalloc). Given how things
> are described in the the doc, it feels weird to have a ::vm_bo_free()
> without ::vm_bo_alloc(). So, if we decide to go this way (which I'm
> still not convinced we should, given ultimately we might want to defer
> gpuvas cleanup), the ::vm_bo_free() doc should be extended to cover
> this 'deferred vm_bo free' case.

I can implement vm_bo_alloc() too, but I think it seems like a pretty
natural way to use vm_bo_free().

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-08  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-05 12:11 [PATCH 0/2] Defer vm_bo cleanup in GPUVM with DRM_GPUVM_IMMEDIATE_MODE Alice Ryhl
2025-09-05 12:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm/gpuvm: add deferred vm_bo cleanup Alice Ryhl
2025-09-05 13:25   ` Boris Brezillon
2025-09-05 18:18     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-09-05 22:47       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-07 11:15         ` Alice Ryhl
2025-09-07 11:28           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-07 11:39             ` Alice Ryhl
2025-09-07 11:44               ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-08  7:11               ` Boris Brezillon
2025-09-08  8:26                 ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2025-09-08  8:47                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-08 10:20                     ` Boris Brezillon
2025-09-08 11:11                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-08 12:11                         ` Boris Brezillon
2025-09-08 12:20                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-09 10:39                             ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-09 10:47                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-09 11:10                                 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-09 11:24                                   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-09-09 11:28                                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-09 11:46                                       ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-08  9:37                   ` Boris Brezillon
2025-09-08  7:22           ` Boris Brezillon
2025-09-05 12:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] panthor: use drm_gpuva_unlink_defer() Alice Ryhl
2025-09-05 12:52   ` Boris Brezillon
2025-09-05 13:01     ` Alice Ryhl

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