From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Christian Brauner" <christian@brauner.io>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Panagiotis Foliadis" <pfoliadis@posteo.net>,
"Shankari Anand" <shankari.ak0208@gmail.com>,
"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
"Alexey Gladkov" <legion@kernel.org>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: rust: wrong SAFETY comments in group_leader() and pid() + questions
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 15:30:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aTbg6O2HS2fGAow6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aTMhpX-_H4Y4J7Ud@google.com>
Alice,
Thanks again for your explanations. Not that I fully understand
them, though ;)
On 12/05, Alice Ryhl wrote:
>
> To start with, it's likely that this comment is not the right choice
> for this function, given our discussion. Most likely group_leader()
> needs to be moved to `impl CurrentTask {}`
I obviously can't comment this proposal,
> and the safety comment needs
> to explain why being the current task ensures that the returned &Task
> lives for long enough.
This is simple. task->group_leader can't change or go away until
this task exits or execs. The "current" task can't exit/exec.
(This also covers the race with mt-exec from current's subthread,
the execing thread will kill all the threads and wait until they
all pass release_task(). Only then it will change ->group_leader).
> impl CurrentTask {
> fn group_leader(&self) -> &Task {
> // SAFETY: This is the current task, so the task must be alive.
> // Therefore the group leader cannot change, and thus it will
> // stay valid as long as self is the current task.
> unsafe { &*bindings::task_group_leader(self.as_ptr()).cast::<Task>() }
> }
> }
Yes, the comment looks good to me.
But we don't have the task_group_leader() helper yet, so far I
only sent the trivial initial preparations, see
https://lore.kernel.org/all/aTV1KYdcDGvjXHos@redhat.com/
So if you are going to move Task::group_leader to the
CurrentTask block, please use .group_leader directly, like
the current code does.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-08 14:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-05 14:08 rust: wrong SAFETY comments in group_leader() and pid() + questions Oleg Nesterov
2025-12-05 14:19 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-05 14:29 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-05 17:21 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-12-05 18:17 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-08 14:30 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-12-11 1:20 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-08 15:43 ` Gary Guo
2025-12-11 1:16 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-05 15:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-12-05 16:28 ` Alice Ryhl
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