* Re: [PATCH v2] rust: sync: set_once: Implement Send and Sync
2025-12-16 0:09 ` [PATCH v2] rust: sync: set_once: Implement Send and Sync FUJITA Tomonori
@ 2025-12-16 12:32 ` Gary Guo
2025-12-17 10:38 ` Andreas Hindborg
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Gary Guo @ 2025-12-16 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: FUJITA Tomonori
Cc: ojeda, a.hindborg, aliceryhl, bjorn3_gh, boqun.feng, dakr, lossin,
tmgross, rust-for-linux
On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 09:09:01 +0900
FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com> wrote:
> Implement Send and Sync for SetOnce<T> to allow it to be used across
> thread boundaries.
>
> Send: SetOnce<T> can be transferred across threads when T: Send, as
> the contained value is also transferred and will be dropped on the
> destination thread.
>
> Sync: SetOnce<T> can be shared across threads when T: Sync, as
> as_ref() provides shared references &T and atomic operations ensure
> proper synchronization. Since the inner T may be dropped on any
> thread, we also require T: Send.
>
> Signed-off-by: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
Reviewed-by: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
> ---
> v2:
> - update the `Sync` impl to require `T: Send + Sync` with the comment adjusted
> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20251211230919.1303926-2-fujita.tomonori@gmail.com/
>
> rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs | 8 ++++++++
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs b/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> index bdba601807d8..139cef05e935 100644
> --- a/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> +++ b/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> @@ -123,3 +123,11 @@ fn drop(&mut self) {
> }
> }
> }
> +
> +// SAFETY: `SetOnce` can be transferred across thread boundaries iff the data it contains can.
> +unsafe impl<T: Send> Send for SetOnce<T> {}
> +
> +// SAFETY: `SetOnce` synchronises access to the inner value via atomic operations,
> +// so shared references are safe when `T: Sync`. Since the inner `T` may be dropped
> +// on any thread, we also require `T: Send`.
> +unsafe impl<T: Send + Sync> Sync for SetOnce<T> {}
>
> base-commit: 8f0b4cce4481fb22653697cced8d0d04027cb1e8
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread* Re: [PATCH v2] rust: sync: set_once: Implement Send and Sync
2025-12-16 0:09 ` [PATCH v2] rust: sync: set_once: Implement Send and Sync FUJITA Tomonori
2025-12-16 12:32 ` Gary Guo
@ 2025-12-17 10:38 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-17 20:44 ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-17 20:45 ` Alice Ryhl
3 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Hindborg @ 2025-12-17 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: FUJITA Tomonori, ojeda, gary
Cc: aliceryhl, bjorn3_gh, boqun.feng, dakr, lossin, tmgross,
rust-for-linux
"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com> writes:
> Implement Send and Sync for SetOnce<T> to allow it to be used across
> thread boundaries.
>
> Send: SetOnce<T> can be transferred across threads when T: Send, as
> the contained value is also transferred and will be dropped on the
> destination thread.
>
> Sync: SetOnce<T> can be shared across threads when T: Sync, as
> as_ref() provides shared references &T and atomic operations ensure
> proper synchronization. Since the inner T may be dropped on any
> thread, we also require T: Send.
>
> Signed-off-by: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
Reviewed-by: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg
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* Re: [PATCH v2] rust: sync: set_once: Implement Send and Sync
2025-12-16 0:09 ` [PATCH v2] rust: sync: set_once: Implement Send and Sync FUJITA Tomonori
2025-12-16 12:32 ` Gary Guo
2025-12-17 10:38 ` Andreas Hindborg
@ 2025-12-17 20:44 ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-17 20:45 ` Alice Ryhl
3 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Boqun Feng @ 2025-12-17 20:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: FUJITA Tomonori
Cc: ojeda, a.hindborg, gary, aliceryhl, bjorn3_gh, dakr, lossin,
tmgross, rust-for-linux
On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 09:09:01AM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> Implement Send and Sync for SetOnce<T> to allow it to be used across
> thread boundaries.
>
> Send: SetOnce<T> can be transferred across threads when T: Send, as
> the contained value is also transferred and will be dropped on the
> destination thread.
>
> Sync: SetOnce<T> can be shared across threads when T: Sync, as
> as_ref() provides shared references &T and atomic operations ensure
> proper synchronization. Since the inner T may be dropped on any
> thread, we also require T: Send.
>
> Signed-off-by: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
> ---
I queued this into my rust-sync branch for 7.0:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/boqun/linux.git/ rust-sync
Thanks!
Regards,
Boqun
> v2:
> - update the `Sync` impl to require `T: Send + Sync` with the comment adjusted
> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20251211230919.1303926-2-fujita.tomonori@gmail.com/
>
> rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs | 8 ++++++++
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs b/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> index bdba601807d8..139cef05e935 100644
> --- a/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> +++ b/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> @@ -123,3 +123,11 @@ fn drop(&mut self) {
> }
> }
> }
> +
> +// SAFETY: `SetOnce` can be transferred across thread boundaries iff the data it contains can.
> +unsafe impl<T: Send> Send for SetOnce<T> {}
> +
> +// SAFETY: `SetOnce` synchronises access to the inner value via atomic operations,
> +// so shared references are safe when `T: Sync`. Since the inner `T` may be dropped
> +// on any thread, we also require `T: Send`.
> +unsafe impl<T: Send + Sync> Sync for SetOnce<T> {}
>
> base-commit: 8f0b4cce4481fb22653697cced8d0d04027cb1e8
> --
> 2.43.0
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread* Re: [PATCH v2] rust: sync: set_once: Implement Send and Sync
2025-12-16 0:09 ` [PATCH v2] rust: sync: set_once: Implement Send and Sync FUJITA Tomonori
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2025-12-17 20:44 ` Boqun Feng
@ 2025-12-17 20:45 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-12-17 21:10 ` Boqun Feng
3 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Alice Ryhl @ 2025-12-17 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: FUJITA Tomonori
Cc: ojeda, a.hindborg, gary, bjorn3_gh, boqun.feng, dakr, lossin,
tmgross, rust-for-linux
On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 09:09:01AM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> Implement Send and Sync for SetOnce<T> to allow it to be used across
> thread boundaries.
>
> Send: SetOnce<T> can be transferred across threads when T: Send, as
> the contained value is also transferred and will be dropped on the
> destination thread.
>
> Sync: SetOnce<T> can be shared across threads when T: Sync, as
> as_ref() provides shared references &T and atomic operations ensure
> proper synchronization. Since the inner T may be dropped on any
> thread, we also require T: Send.
>
> Signed-off-by: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
> ---
> v2:
> - update the `Sync` impl to require `T: Send + Sync` with the comment adjusted
> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20251211230919.1303926-2-fujita.tomonori@gmail.com/
>
> rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs | 8 ++++++++
> 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs b/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> index bdba601807d8..139cef05e935 100644
> --- a/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> +++ b/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> @@ -123,3 +123,11 @@ fn drop(&mut self) {
> }
> }
> }
> +
> +// SAFETY: `SetOnce` can be transferred across thread boundaries iff the data it contains can.
> +unsafe impl<T: Send> Send for SetOnce<T> {}
> +
> +// SAFETY: `SetOnce` synchronises access to the inner value via atomic operations,
> +// so shared references are safe when `T: Sync`. Since the inner `T` may be dropped
> +// on any thread, we also require `T: Send`.
> +unsafe impl<T: Send + Sync> Sync for SetOnce<T> {}
The reason you need Sync is because &SetOnce<T> allows you to access &T.
It's not because atomic operations are used.
Alice
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2025-12-17 20:45 ` Alice Ryhl
@ 2025-12-17 21:10 ` Boqun Feng
2025-12-18 7:58 ` Alice Ryhl
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Boqun Feng @ 2025-12-17 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alice Ryhl
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori, ojeda, a.hindborg, gary, bjorn3_gh, dakr, lossin,
tmgross, rust-for-linux
On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 08:45:35PM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 09:09:01AM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > Implement Send and Sync for SetOnce<T> to allow it to be used across
> > thread boundaries.
> >
> > Send: SetOnce<T> can be transferred across threads when T: Send, as
> > the contained value is also transferred and will be dropped on the
> > destination thread.
> >
> > Sync: SetOnce<T> can be shared across threads when T: Sync, as
> > as_ref() provides shared references &T and atomic operations ensure
> > proper synchronization. Since the inner T may be dropped on any
> > thread, we also require T: Send.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > v2:
> > - update the `Sync` impl to require `T: Send + Sync` with the comment adjusted
> > v1: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20251211230919.1303926-2-fujita.tomonori@gmail.com/
> >
> > rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs | 8 ++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs b/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> > index bdba601807d8..139cef05e935 100644
> > --- a/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> > +++ b/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> > @@ -123,3 +123,11 @@ fn drop(&mut self) {
> > }
> > }
> > }
> > +
> > +// SAFETY: `SetOnce` can be transferred across thread boundaries iff the data it contains can.
> > +unsafe impl<T: Send> Send for SetOnce<T> {}
> > +
> > +// SAFETY: `SetOnce` synchronises access to the inner value via atomic operations,
> > +// so shared references are safe when `T: Sync`. Since the inner `T` may be dropped
> > +// on any thread, we also require `T: Send`.
> > +unsafe impl<T: Send + Sync> Sync for SetOnce<T> {}
>
> The reason you need Sync is because &SetOnce<T> allows you to access &T.
> It's not because atomic operations are used.
>
I think the point here is that atomic operations contribute to the
safety of sharing &SetOnce<T> between threads, if the synchronization
part of SetOnce is not done via atomics (or any other synchronization),
then SetOnce is not Sync. In other words, making `SetOnce<T>: Sync`
requires all the following:
* The internal operation is proper synchronized
* T is Sync because a `&T` can be derived from `&SetOnce<T>`
* T is Send because copy() may create a `T` on another thread.
(hmm... the third condition does looks weird to me, because if `T` is
`Sync` and `Copy`, the copy on `T` should guarante the drop of the
copied `T` is safe, otherwise `T` itself is not `Sync`. Gary, do you
have an example in mind that requires `T` being `Send` for `SetOnce<T>`
being `Sync`?)
Regards,
Boqun
> Alice
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2025-12-17 21:10 ` Boqun Feng
@ 2025-12-18 7:58 ` Alice Ryhl
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Alice Ryhl @ 2025-12-18 7:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Boqun Feng
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori, ojeda, a.hindborg, gary, bjorn3_gh, dakr, lossin,
tmgross, rust-for-linux
On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 06:10:37AM +0900, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 08:45:35PM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 09:09:01AM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > > Implement Send and Sync for SetOnce<T> to allow it to be used across
> > > thread boundaries.
> > >
> > > Send: SetOnce<T> can be transferred across threads when T: Send, as
> > > the contained value is also transferred and will be dropped on the
> > > destination thread.
> > >
> > > Sync: SetOnce<T> can be shared across threads when T: Sync, as
> > > as_ref() provides shared references &T and atomic operations ensure
> > > proper synchronization. Since the inner T may be dropped on any
> > > thread, we also require T: Send.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > > v2:
> > > - update the `Sync` impl to require `T: Send + Sync` with the comment adjusted
> > > v1: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20251211230919.1303926-2-fujita.tomonori@gmail.com/
> > >
> > > rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs | 8 ++++++++
> > > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs b/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> > > index bdba601807d8..139cef05e935 100644
> > > --- a/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> > > +++ b/rust/kernel/sync/set_once.rs
> > > @@ -123,3 +123,11 @@ fn drop(&mut self) {
> > > }
> > > }
> > > }
> > > +
> > > +// SAFETY: `SetOnce` can be transferred across thread boundaries iff the data it contains can.
> > > +unsafe impl<T: Send> Send for SetOnce<T> {}
> > > +
> > > +// SAFETY: `SetOnce` synchronises access to the inner value via atomic operations,
> > > +// so shared references are safe when `T: Sync`. Since the inner `T` may be dropped
> > > +// on any thread, we also require `T: Send`.
> > > +unsafe impl<T: Send + Sync> Sync for SetOnce<T> {}
> >
> > The reason you need Sync is because &SetOnce<T> allows you to access &T.
> > It's not because atomic operations are used.
> >
>
> I think the point here is that atomic operations contribute to the
> safety of sharing &SetOnce<T> between threads, if the synchronization
> part of SetOnce is not done via atomics (or any other synchronization),
> then SetOnce is not Sync. In other words, making `SetOnce<T>: Sync`
> requires all the following:
>
> * The internal operation is proper synchronized
> * T is Sync because a `&T` can be derived from `&SetOnce<T>`
> * T is Send because copy() may create a `T` on another thread.
>
> (hmm... the third condition does looks weird to me, because if `T` is
> `Sync` and `Copy`, the copy on `T` should guarante the drop of the
> copied `T` is safe, otherwise `T` itself is not `Sync`. Gary, do you
> have an example in mind that requires `T` being `Send` for `SetOnce<T>`
> being `Sync`?)
I guess in general safety comments for Send/Sync are a bit tricky ...
you really need to argue that the entire API is designed correctly to
show that having &SetOnce<T> on multiple threads in parallel is sound
(in the case of Sync).
Alice
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