From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2015F27FB18; Mon, 16 Mar 2026 23:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1773705109; cv=none; b=QT4g+2IbRg4I5WYCDcCGt28bWl+mTI8SKVtkOJeVHSWV3Vqxrgmr+ldUE/qSSMT6ief4uLZt92TRXP2fXgfIfEWLH/VZ/xtkxpzwkszqCRoaGh/TxMCvJjgKlB3jT+V/Bd0PATeLjYwS6TKFtiGb8UME3RPN7OXVTmUvwTvW8II= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1773705109; c=relaxed/simple; bh=alHPy1osXUvrgfN4YBAjlweiFW13jCwbEx/aQkDdYww=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=gqCltiCc7Lh+YZ/m9HauSDQqy8MWuXwK66mJWzSAgOMWAzmsMxyTAkuqWu1HxuVDZoAc4Aq6kGxb28xDDNWLTo3bu3g9lAKrEw/ZEIOjOyS46MoxWs6xmAtmARg4HGOQbgI0ahAmwqaMN2hHtqWbTKbNcKEntuQ6M5gVuqINKG8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=Ke3T/QV8; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="Ke3T/QV8" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2F4CC19421; Mon, 16 Mar 2026 23:51:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1773705109; bh=alHPy1osXUvrgfN4YBAjlweiFW13jCwbEx/aQkDdYww=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Ke3T/QV8nubHG14IGjMbgT8v6PR9ktklFNGrXHzRupwo46vwnH47cC0/2OtxiTRdA DPQCG2YCF4pCoX82z4AUZArg1yLP8WK2cOWIJ6tVSL3bCnMzWy5CTHQRQ2+id8+dbI W4zObwLGWAMQktDymohk9tpVCT0zumdgJSt8CdAbD7meA4vUQcA4Kjp1FMctZn/w6J daar/92ezeH3lslbtXU0UUbNN7GbgKdlQR+IMiwzAtUWHeDiw9YbF6ax9JW7CD8Ogk yxEF0hht8LlNJQDXv5qIKmXuoTS+rMRMDmER8vSmjaOLcjvACiQtkmL50inTByJ6DD lCa/VV9Ymmxqg== Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 17:51:45 -0600 From: Keith Busch To: Andreas Hindborg Cc: Jens Axboe , Christoph Hellwig , Sagi Grimberg , lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Bart Van Assche , Chaitanya Kulkarni , Damien Le Moal , Daniel Gomez , Hannes Reinecke , Hans Holmberg , Jan Kara , Johannes Thumshirn , John Pittman , John Stultz , "Martin K. Petersen" , Miguel Ojeda , Ming Lei , Niklas Cassel , Nitesh Shetty , Oliver Mangold , Pankaj Raghav , Shin'ichiro Kawasaki , Theodore Tso , Wedson Almeida Filho , gost.dev@samsung.com, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC][RESEND] Status of Rust in the block subsystem Message-ID: References: <878qcpbux5.fsf@kernel.org> <87ikb2mrib.fsf@t14s.mail-host-address-is-not-set> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ikb2mrib.fsf@t14s.mail-host-address-is-not-set> On Wed, Mar 11, 2026 at 02:21:00PM +0100, Andreas Hindborg wrote: > As this topic was not selected for discussion at LSF, and I did not > receive an invitation for LSF this year, I propose that we discuss these > two topics on list. > > I do believe that these topics need to be discussed, and I would very > much appreciate your input. I can sympathise the difficulty of maintaining external modules. In terms of this being a reference driver, that implies some future hardware driver may leverage this for its development. Is there anything in mind at this point for production? If so, maybe that use case should take the lead. But either way, I think rust-nvme upstream inclusion would invite confusion. Once it's upstream, it's no longer a reference when distros and users turn it on.