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From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Matthew Maurer <mmaurer@google.com>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	Wedson Almeida Filho <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>, Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	Neal Gompa <neal@gompa.dev>, Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>,
	Janne Grunau <j@jannau.net>, Asahi Linux <asahi@lists.linux.dev>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 16/19] gendwarfksyms: Add support for reserved structure fields
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2024 11:31:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6c1e84a-40f3-41a5-a732-f1cf06521691@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGSQo01kCUd64nB7C7Ssy1N=UBpOP3bORsRDcHJ1k2CqkbKsfQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 20.08.24 22:03, Matthew Maurer wrote:
>>> The way `KAbiReserved` is implemented is via a `union` (maybe a bit
>>> ironic, considering what I said in my other replies, but in this case,
>>> we would provide a safe abstraction over this `union`, thus avoiding
>>> exposing users of this type to `unsafe`):
>>>
>>>     #[repr(C)]
>>>     pub union KAbiReserved<T, R> {
>>>         value: T,
>>>         _reserved: R,
>>>     }
>>
>> I like this approach even better, assuming any remaining issues with
>> ownership etc. can be sorted out. This would also look identical to
>> the C version in DWARF if you rename _reserved in the union to
>> __kabi_reserved. Of course, we can always change gendwarfksyms to
>> support a different scheme for Rust code if a better solution comes
>> along later.

Yeah sure, that should also then work directly with this patch, right?

>> Sami
> 
> Agreement here - this seems like a good approach to representing
> reserved in Rust code. A few minor adjustments we discussed off-list
> which aren't required for gendwarfksyms to know about:
> 1. Types being added to reserved fields have to be `Copy`, e.g. they
> must be `!Drop`.
> 2. Types being added to reserved fields must be legal to be
> represented by all zeroes.
> 3. Reserved fields need to be initialized to zero before having their
> union set to the provided value when constructing them.
> 4. It may be helpful to have delegating trait implementations to avoid
> the couple places where autoderef won't handle the conversion.
> 
> While I think this is the right solution, esp. since it can share a
> representation with C, I wanted to call out one minor shortfall - a
> reserved field can only be replaced by one type. We could still
> indicate a replacement by two fields the same as in C, by using a
> tuple which will look like an anonymous struct. The limitation will be
> that if two or more new fields were introduced, we'd need to edit the
> patches accessing them to do foo.x.y and foo.x.z for their accesses
> instead of simply foo.y and foo.z - the autoref trick only works for a
> single type.

We will have to see how often multiple fields are added to a struct. If
they are infrequent and it's fine for those patches to then touch the
field accesses, then I think we can just stick with this approach.
If there are problems with that, we can also try the following:
all fields of kABI structs must be private and must only be accessed
through setters/getters. We can then modify the body the setters/getters
to handle the additional indirection.

If that also sounds too much work compared to the C side, then we can
get in touch with the Rust language folks and see if they can provide us
with a better solution.

---
Cheers,
Benno


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-21 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-15 17:39 [PATCH v2 00/19] Implement DWARF modversions Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] tools: Add gendwarfksyms Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-16  7:14   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-27 16:44     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-26 17:41   ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-26 18:47     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 12:31       ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-28 21:28         ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 17:45   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 21:32     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-05  2:29   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-05 20:52     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-10  9:43       ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-10 21:09         ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] gendwarfksyms: Add symbol list handling Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-27  9:16   ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-27 18:47     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 12:35   ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-28 23:09     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-02  9:52       ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-28 18:16   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 21:50     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-01 10:59   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-04 20:51     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] gendwarfksyms: Add address matching Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-27 12:40   ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-27 21:28     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 18:22   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 21:56     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-01 11:10   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-04 20:48     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] gendwarfksyms: Add support for type pointers Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28  6:50   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28  7:15     ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 21:58       ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] gendwarfksyms: Expand base_type Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 12:46   ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-28 22:19     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] gendwarfksyms: Add a cache for processed DIEs Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28 18:15   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 22:27     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-02 10:05   ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-05 17:19     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] gendwarfksyms: Expand type modifiers and typedefs Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] gendwarfksyms: Expand subroutine_type Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-03 15:11   ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-05 17:22     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] gendwarfksyms: Expand array_type Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] gendwarfksyms: Expand structure types Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] gendwarfksyms: Limit structure expansion Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-03 15:15   ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-05 18:15     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] gendwarfksyms: Add die_map debugging Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] gendwarfksyms: Add symtypes output Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-10 14:58   ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-10 21:15     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] gendwarfksyms: Add symbol versioning Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-11 10:08   ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-11 16:03     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-12 10:28       ` Petr Pavlu
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] gendwarfksyms: Add support for declaration-only data structures Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] gendwarfksyms: Add support for reserved structure fields Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-16  7:20   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-16 15:50     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-17  7:41       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-17 13:19         ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-19 18:25           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-19 21:46             ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-19 19:38           ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-19 22:16             ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-20 18:47               ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-20 20:03                 ` Matthew Maurer
2024-08-21 11:31                   ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2024-08-21 23:01                     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-21 23:29                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-22  5:55                       ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-22  7:29                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-22 12:00                           ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-22 23:53                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-23 19:17                               ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-24 13:29                                 ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-24 13:27                               ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-30  9:34   ` Miroslav Benes
2024-08-31  0:05     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-11 11:43       ` Petr Pavlu
2024-09-12 16:06         ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-12 18:08           ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-12 20:58             ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-12 21:58               ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-12 22:37                 ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-13  8:00                   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] export: Add __gendwarfksyms_ptr_ references to exported symbols Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] x86/asm-prototypes: Include <asm/ptrace.h> Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-01 10:50   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-09-04 20:47     ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 17:39 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] kbuild: Add gendwarfksyms as an alternative to genksyms Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-15 20:13 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] Implement DWARF modversions Sedat Dilek
2024-08-15 20:47   ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-21  0:12     ` Sedat Dilek
2024-08-16  7:15 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-08-22 16:43 ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-08-22 17:57   ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-08-28  7:04 ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-08-28 22:53   ` Sami Tolvanen
2024-09-02  9:57     ` Petr Pavlu

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