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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	Timur Tabi <ttabi@nvidia.com>
Cc: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>, Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	Nouveau <nouveau-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/11] gpu: nova-core: add FalconUCodeDescV2 support
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2025 22:40:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c7bcefb8-23a4-4f10-8115-60c3dfe69c00@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d46760e-f315-4757-8502-ca8d48c6405a@nvidia.com>

On 11/18/25 11:45 AM, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On 11/18/2025 8:04 AM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> On Tue Nov 18, 2025 at 8:10 AM JST, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 05:30:42PM -0600, Timur Tabi wrote:
...
>> On principle, I tend to agree. In practice, we will probably never have
>> more than these two variants, so we need to balance the benefit of a
>> trait against the overhead of defining it in the first place (there are
>> quite a few methods in there).
> 
> I don't know if we'll never have more than one more variant really, its hard to
> take a call on that. If a third variant comes into being, then the match arms
> increase more.

I can help here: remember that the firmware team is moving rapidly toward
simplifying the bootloading--a lot--from the kernel driver point of view.
Not-so-distant future GSP+bootloader firmware will require little more than
request_firmware() to load files into kernel memory, and then write to a
register to say "make it so", and then just wait for GSP to report that
it is ready.

So we will be out of this business, and there is no need to invest in
allowing for more variants.

>> Trait objects come with their own complications, i.e. you need to store
>> them on the heap if you need more than a short-lived reference - but in
>> our case the short-lived reference should be what we need anyway.
> 
> Yeah, true. AFAICS though, and as you mentioned, in Timur's case it looks like
> that is not an issue and we do not need an allocation.
> 

So, with the rough, and probably accurate assumption that this is all
the version we need to support, I'd suggest comparing line counts between
the competing ways of coding it up. Maybe that could help as a tiebreaker,
if not everyone agrees on which is more readable (I'm trying to avoid
weighing in on that point--you're welcome, haha).

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-19  6:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14 23:30 [PATCH 00/11] gpu: nova-core: add Turing support Timur Tabi
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 01/11] gpu: nova-core: rename Imem to ImemSec Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 22:50   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 02/11] gpu: nova-core: add ImemNs section infrastructure Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 23:19   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-19  1:54   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  6:30     ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19  6:55       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19 19:54         ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-19 20:34           ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19 20:45             ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-19 20:54               ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19 20:56                 ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-20  1:45           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 03/11] gpu: nova-core: support header parsing on Turing/GA100 Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 22:33   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-18  0:52     ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-18  1:04       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-18  1:06         ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-18  1:15           ` John Hubbard
2025-11-18  1:29             ` John Hubbard
2025-11-18  1:12         ` John Hubbard
2025-11-18 19:42           ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19  2:51   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  5:16     ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-19  7:03       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  7:04       ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19 20:10         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 04/11] gpu: nova-core: add support for Turing/GA100 fwsignature Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 23:20   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-19  2:59   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  5:17     ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-19  7:11     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  7:17       ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19  7:34         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 05/11] gpu: nova-core: add NV_PFALCON_FALCON_DMATRFCMD::with_falcon_mem() Timur Tabi
2025-11-19  3:04   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  6:32     ` John Hubbard
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 06/11] gpu: nova-core: add Turing boot registers Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 22:41   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19  2:17   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  6:34     ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19  6:47       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  6:51         ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19  7:15           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  7:24             ` John Hubbard
2025-11-19 19:10               ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-20  1:41                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 07/11] gpu: nova-core: move some functions into the HAL Timur Tabi
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 08/11] gpu: nova-core: Add basic Turing HAL Timur Tabi
2025-11-18  0:50   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19  3:11   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 09/11] gpu: nova-core: add FalconUCodeDescV2 support Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 23:10   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-18 13:04     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-18 15:08       ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-18 19:46         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19  1:36         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-18 19:45       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-19  6:40         ` John Hubbard [this message]
2025-11-19  3:27   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 10/11] gpu: nova-core: LibosMemoryRegionInitArgument size must be page aligned Timur Tabi
2025-11-19  3:36   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 23:30 ` [PATCH 11/11] gpu: nova-core: add PIO support for loading firmware images Timur Tabi
2025-11-17 23:34   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-18 13:08     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  4:28   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19 13:49     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  7:01   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-19  4:29 ` [PATCH 00/11] gpu: nova-core: add Turing support Alexandre Courbot

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