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From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	andrew@lunn.ch, miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com,
	tmgross@umich.edu, boqun.feng@gmail.com, wedsonaf@gmail.com,
	greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 1/5] rust: core abstractions for network PHY drivers
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:35:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd3ff8e6-214e-4a80-980e-e92751223002@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231021.223115.1115424295905877996.fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>

On 21.10.23 15:31, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:05:59 +0000
> Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
> 
>> On 21.10.23 15:00, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 12:50:10 +0000
>>> Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think this is very weird, do you have any idea why this
>>>>>>>> could happen?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DriverVtable is created on kernel stack, I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But how does that invalidate the function pointers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only funciton pointers. You can't store something on stack for
>>>>> later use.
>>>>
>>>> It is not stored on the stack, it is only created on the stack and
>>>> moved to a global static later on. The `module!` macro creates a
>>>> `static mut __MOD: Option<Module>` where the module data is stored in.
>>>
>>> I know. The problem is that we call phy_drivers_register() with
>>> DriverVTable on stack. Then it was moved.
>>
>> I see, what exactly is the problem with that? In other words:
>> why does PHYLIB need `phy_driver` to stay at the same address?
> 
> phy_driver_register stores addresses that you passed.

But the function pointers don't change?

>> This is an important requirement in Rust. Rust can ensure that
>> types are not moved by means of pinning them. In this case, Wedson's
>> patch below should fix the issue completely.
>>
>> But we should also fix this in the abstractions, the `DriverVTable`
>> type should only be constructible in a pinned state. For this purpose
>> we have the `pin-init` API [2].
> 
> You can create DriverVTable freely. The restriction is what
> phy_driver_register takes. 

Sure you can also keep it this way, I just thought only allowing
pinned creation makes things simpler.

> Currently, it needs &'static DriverVTable
> array so it works.

That is actually also incorrect. As the C side is going to modify
the `DriverVTable`, you should actually use `&'static mut DriverVTable`.
But since it is not allowed to be moved you have to use
`Pin<&'static mut DriverVTable>`.

> The C side uses static allocation too. If someone asks for, we could
> loosen the restriction with a complicated implentation. But I doubt
> that someone would ask for such.

With Wedson's patch you also would be using the static allocation
from `module!`. What my problem is, is that you are using a `static mut`
which is `unsafe` and you do not actually have to use it (with
Wedson's patch of course).

-- 
Cheers,
Benno



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-21 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-17 11:30 [PATCH net-next v5 0/5] Rust abstractions for network PHY drivers FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/5] rust: core " FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-18 15:07   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-19  0:24     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-19 13:45       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-19 14:42         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-19 15:20           ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-19 15:32             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-19 16:37               ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-19 21:51                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21  7:21                   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-20  0:34             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-20 12:54               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21  7:25                 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21  7:30                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21  8:37                     ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 10:27                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 11:21                         ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 11:36                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 12:13                             ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 12:38                               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 12:50                                 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 13:00                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 13:05                                     ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 13:31                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 13:35                                         ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2023-10-21 21:45                                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-23  6:35                                             ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-23  6:37                                               ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 15:57                                       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-21 16:31                                         ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 15:41                             ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-20 18:42     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-21  4:44       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21  7:36       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 12:47       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-22  9:47         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-22 11:37           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-22 15:34             ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-24  1:37               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-24  8:48               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-18 20:27   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-19  0:41     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-19 13:57       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-20 19:50         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-21  8:01           ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 15:35             ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-20 17:26   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-20 17:56     ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-20 19:59     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-20 20:30       ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-21  3:49         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21  4:01     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/5] rust: net::phy add module_phy_driver macro FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/5] WIP rust: add second `bindgen` pass for enum exhaustiveness checking FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-20 11:37   ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-20 12:34     ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-20 12:35       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-23  8:57       ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-21  3:51     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 12:05       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-22  6:30         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-23  8:58         ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-17 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v5 4/5] MAINTAINERS: add Rust PHY abstractions for ETHERNET PHY LIBRARY FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v5 5/5] net: phy: add Rust Asix PHY driver FUJITA Tomonori

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