From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
andrew@lunn.ch, miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com,
tmgross@umich.edu, boqun.feng@gmail.com, wedsonaf@gmail.com,
greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 1/5] rust: core abstractions for network PHY drivers
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:35:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd3ff8e6-214e-4a80-980e-e92751223002@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231021.223115.1115424295905877996.fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
On 21.10.23 15:31, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:05:59 +0000
> Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
>
>> On 21.10.23 15:00, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 12:50:10 +0000
>>> Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think this is very weird, do you have any idea why this
>>>>>>>> could happen?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DriverVtable is created on kernel stack, I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But how does that invalidate the function pointers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only funciton pointers. You can't store something on stack for
>>>>> later use.
>>>>
>>>> It is not stored on the stack, it is only created on the stack and
>>>> moved to a global static later on. The `module!` macro creates a
>>>> `static mut __MOD: Option<Module>` where the module data is stored in.
>>>
>>> I know. The problem is that we call phy_drivers_register() with
>>> DriverVTable on stack. Then it was moved.
>>
>> I see, what exactly is the problem with that? In other words:
>> why does PHYLIB need `phy_driver` to stay at the same address?
>
> phy_driver_register stores addresses that you passed.
But the function pointers don't change?
>> This is an important requirement in Rust. Rust can ensure that
>> types are not moved by means of pinning them. In this case, Wedson's
>> patch below should fix the issue completely.
>>
>> But we should also fix this in the abstractions, the `DriverVTable`
>> type should only be constructible in a pinned state. For this purpose
>> we have the `pin-init` API [2].
>
> You can create DriverVTable freely. The restriction is what
> phy_driver_register takes.
Sure you can also keep it this way, I just thought only allowing
pinned creation makes things simpler.
> Currently, it needs &'static DriverVTable
> array so it works.
That is actually also incorrect. As the C side is going to modify
the `DriverVTable`, you should actually use `&'static mut DriverVTable`.
But since it is not allowed to be moved you have to use
`Pin<&'static mut DriverVTable>`.
> The C side uses static allocation too. If someone asks for, we could
> loosen the restriction with a complicated implentation. But I doubt
> that someone would ask for such.
With Wedson's patch you also would be using the static allocation
from `module!`. What my problem is, is that you are using a `static mut`
which is `unsafe` and you do not actually have to use it (with
Wedson's patch of course).
--
Cheers,
Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-21 13:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-17 11:30 [PATCH net-next v5 0/5] Rust abstractions for network PHY drivers FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/5] rust: core " FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-18 15:07 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-19 0:24 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-19 13:45 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-19 14:42 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-19 15:20 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-19 15:32 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-19 16:37 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-19 21:51 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 7:21 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-20 0:34 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-20 12:54 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 7:25 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 7:30 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 8:37 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 10:27 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 11:21 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 11:36 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 12:13 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 12:38 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 12:50 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 13:00 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 13:05 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 13:31 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 13:35 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2023-10-21 21:45 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-23 6:35 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-23 6:37 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 15:57 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-21 16:31 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 15:41 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-20 18:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-21 4:44 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 7:36 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 12:47 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-22 9:47 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-22 11:37 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-22 15:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-24 1:37 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-24 8:48 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-18 20:27 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-19 0:41 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-19 13:57 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-20 19:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-21 8:01 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-21 15:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-20 17:26 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-20 17:56 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-20 19:59 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-20 20:30 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-21 3:49 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 4:01 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/5] rust: net::phy add module_phy_driver macro FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/5] WIP rust: add second `bindgen` pass for enum exhaustiveness checking FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-20 11:37 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-20 12:34 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-20 12:35 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-23 8:57 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-21 3:51 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-21 12:05 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-22 6:30 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-23 8:58 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-10-17 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v5 4/5] MAINTAINERS: add Rust PHY abstractions for ETHERNET PHY LIBRARY FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17 11:30 ` [PATCH net-next v5 5/5] net: phy: add Rust Asix PHY driver FUJITA Tomonori
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