From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: rafael@kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org, russell.h.weight@intel.com,
ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, wedsonaf@gmail.com,
gary@garyguo.net, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
benno.lossin@proton.me, a.hindborg@samsung.com,
aliceryhl@google.com, airlied@gmail.com,
fujita.tomonori@gmail.com, pstanner@redhat.com,
ajanulgu@redhat.com, lyude@redhat.com,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: add abstraction for struct device
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 16:51:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d74edb73-1dba-43f4-a50c-36354c39d758@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zmh3oN9sWamaYHOD@Boquns-Mac-mini.home>
On 6/11/24 18:13, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 03:29:22PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 03:21:31PM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>>> ...hence, I agree we should indeed add to the #Invariants and #Safety section
>>> that `->release` must be callable from any thread.
>>>
>>> However, this is just theory, do we actually have cases where `device::release`
>
> @Danilo, right, it's only theorical, but it's good to call it out since
> it's the requirement for a safe Rust abstraction.
Similar to my previous reply, if we want to call this out as safety requirement
in `Device::from_raw`, we probably want to add it to the documentation of the C
`struct device`, such that we can argue that this is an invariant of C's
`struct device`.
Otherwise we'd have to write something like:
"It must also be ensured that the `->release` function of a `struct device` can
be called from any non-atomic context. While not being officially documented this
is guaranteed by the invariant of `struct device`."
>
>>> is not allowed to be called from any thread? If so, this would be very confusing
>>> for a reference counted type from a design point of view...
>>
>> What do you mean exactly "by any thread"? Maybe not from interrupt
>
> The `Send` trait here doesn't really differ between interrupt contexts
> and process contexts, so "by any thread", it includes all the contexts.
> However, we rely on klint[1] to detect context mismatch in compile time
> (it's still a WIP though). For this case, we would need to mark the
> `Device::dec_ref` function as might sleep.
>
> Regards,
> Boqun
>
> [1]: https://rust-for-linux.com/klint
>
>> context, but any other normal thread (i.e. that you can sleep in), it
>> should be fine to call release() in.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> greg k-h
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-12 14:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-10 18:02 [PATCH v2 0/2] Rust abstractions for Device & Firmware Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-10 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: add abstraction for struct device Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-10 18:38 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-11 13:21 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-11 13:29 ` Greg KH
2024-06-11 16:13 ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-12 13:59 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-12 14:51 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2024-06-12 15:02 ` Greg KH
2024-06-12 15:35 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-12 15:50 ` Greg KH
2024-06-12 16:18 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-12 17:13 ` Greg KH
2024-06-12 17:43 ` Greg KH
2024-06-12 20:56 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-13 5:47 ` Greg KH
2024-06-13 12:22 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-13 20:18 ` Lyude Paul
2024-06-10 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] rust: add firmware abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-11 6:31 ` Greg KH
2024-06-11 13:34 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-11 13:44 ` Greg KH
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