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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Timur Tabi <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	"nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org" <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"dakr@kernel.org" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"lyude@redhat.com" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org" <rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/13] gpu: nova-core: add PIO support for loading firmware images
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2025 15:40:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <df1e24cf-6983-4d17-8652-15adca8281ea@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cec4c58a-cdfa-4bf9-8d0e-7c47d8232697@nvidia.com>

On 12/2/25 3:20 PM, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On 12/2/2025 5:51 PM, Timur Tabi wrote:
>> On Tue, 2025-12-02 at 16:23 -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
...
>>> If img.size is not a multiple of 4 bytes, this can panic right?

Rust for Linux avoids .unwrap() for similar reasons that we prefer WARN*()
over BUG*() these days, on the C side: avoid killing the machine if at
all possible. Because it changes a routine bug into a harder-to-work-with
bug.

...
>> Wouldn't it be a run-time constraint anyway? With the exception of the BootloaderDmemDescV2 write, 
>> all of the calls to pio_wr_bytes() have lengths only known at runtime.
> 
> I am not sure but I think rust code is expected to not panic and handle
> situations gracefully even in the face of runtime constraints being violated,
> you could argue that the image length being violated is UB but I don't think
> that'd be enough to justify the unwrap(). But perhaps someone from the rust core

Agreed. This situation should return an -EINVAL Result, approximately.

In fact, I just finished looking through my Hopper/Blackwell PIO code, which
also needs 4-byte alignment, and concluded that returning -EINVAL for misaligned
data seems to be the appropriate way to handle things.


> team can chime in about that because I also have that question. Can a "FW image
> corruption" type of scenarios be considered something that safe rust code not
> need to worry about since it falls under the UB umbrella (similar to memory
> corruption)?
> 

I'm not the core Rust team, but I will chime in anyway: misaligned or
corrupted firmware should not *directly* cause a panic. We should detect
and error out.

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-02 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-01 23:39 [PATCH v2 00/13] gpu: nova-core: add Turing support Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] gpu: nova-core: rename Imem to ImemSecure Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] gpu: nova-core: add ImemNonSecure section infrastructure Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] gpu: nova-core: support header parsing on Turing/GA100 Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] gpu: nova-core: add support for Turing/GA100 fwsignature Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] gpu: nova-core: add NV_PFALCON_FALCON_DMATRFCMD::with_falcon_mem() Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] gpu: nova-core: add Turing boot registers Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] gpu: nova-core: move some functions into the HAL Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] gpu: nova-core: Add basic Turing HAL Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] gpu: nova-core: add Falcon HAL method supports_dma() Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] gpu: nova-core: add FalconUCodeDescV2 support Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] gpu: nova-core: align LibosMemoryRegionInitArgument size to page size Timur Tabi
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] gpu: nova-core: add PIO support for loading firmware images Timur Tabi
2025-12-02 21:23   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-02 22:51     ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-02 23:20       ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-02 23:40         ` John Hubbard [this message]
2025-12-02 23:48           ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-03  0:35             ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  0:42               ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-03  0:45                 ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  2:14                   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-03  2:21                     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-02 21:28   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-01 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] [RFC] gpu: nova: implement trait object FalconUCodeDescriptor Timur Tabi
2025-12-02  3:00   ` John Hubbard
2025-12-02  2:55 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] gpu: nova-core: add Turing support John Hubbard

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