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From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com, tmgross@umich.edu,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, wedsonaf@gmail.com, greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4 1/4] rust: core abstractions for network PHY drivers
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 14:04:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f26a3e1a-7eb8-464e-9cbe-ebb8bdf69b20@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1454c3e6-82d1-4f60-b07d-bc3b47b23662@lunn.ch>

On 17.10.23 14:38, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> Because set_speed() updates the member in phy_device and read()
>>> updates the object that phy_device points to?
>>
>> `set_speed` is entirely implemented on the Rust side and is not protected
>> by a lock.
> 
> With the current driver, all entry points into the driver are called
> from the phylib core, and the core guarantees that the lock is
> taken. So it should not matter if its entirely implemented in the Rust
> side, somewhere up the call stack, the lock was taken.

Sure that might be the case, I am trying to guard against this future
problem:

     fn soft_reset(driver: &mut Driver) -> Result {
         let driver = driver
         thread::scope(|s| {
             let thread_a = s.spawn(|| {
                 for _ in 0..100_000_000 {
                     driver.set_speed(10);
                 }
             });
             let thread_b = s.spawn(|| {
                 for _ in 0..100_000_000 {
                     driver.set_speed(10);
                 }
             });
             thread_a.join();
             thread_b.join();
         });
         Ok(())
     }

This code spawns two new threads both of which can call `set_speed`,
since it takes `&self`. But this leads to a data race, since those
accesses are not serialized. I know that this is a very contrived
example, but you never when this will become reality, so we should
do the right thing now and just use `&mut self`, since that is exactly
what it is for.

Not that we do not even have a way to create threads on the Rust side
at the moment. But we should already be thinking about any possible
code pattern.

>>>> What about these functions?
>>>> - resolve_aneg_linkmode
>>>> - genphy_soft_reset
>>>> - init_hw
>>>> - start_aneg
>>>> - genphy_read_status
>>>> - genphy_update_link
>>>> - genphy_read_lpa
>>>> - genphy_read_abilities
>>>
>>> As Andrew replied, all the functions update some member in phy_device.
>>
>> Do all of these functions lock the `bus->mdio_lock`?
> 
> When accessing the hardware, yes.
> 
> The basic architecture is that at the bottom we have an MDIO bus, and
> on top of that bus, we have a number of devices. The MDIO core will
> serialise access to the bus, so only one device on the bus can be
> accessed at once. The phylib core will serialise access to the PHY,
> but when there are multiple PHYs, the phylib core will allow parallel
> access to different PHYs.
> 
> In summary, the core of each layer protects the drivers using that
> layer from multiple parallel accesses from above.
Thanks for this explanation, it really helps!

-- 
Cheers,
Benno



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-17 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-12 12:53 [PATCH net-next v4 0/4] Rust abstractions for network PHY drivers FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12 12:53 ` [PATCH net-next v4 1/4] rust: core " FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13 21:31   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-14  2:12     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-14  4:50       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-14 17:00       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-14 23:18         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-15 15:47           ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-14  7:22     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-14  8:07       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-14 10:32         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-14 14:54           ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-14 15:53             ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-14 16:15             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-14 17:07               ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-14 21:18                 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-14 22:39                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17  7:06                   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-17  7:32                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17  7:41                       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-17 11:32                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-17 12:38                     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-17 14:04                       ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2023-10-17 14:21                         ` Greg KH
2023-10-17 14:32                           ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-17 15:17                             ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-17 16:15                               ` Greg KH
2023-10-17 16:13                             ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-17 15:03                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-14 12:00       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-12 12:53 ` [PATCH net-next v4 2/4] rust: net::phy add module_phy_driver macro FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12 12:53 ` [PATCH net-next v4 3/4] MAINTAINERS: add Rust PHY abstractions to the ETHERNET PHY LIBRARY FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13 14:34   ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-13 15:24     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13 16:10       ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-13 16:17     ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-13 18:43       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-13 18:49         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-14  5:15           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-14 18:18             ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-12 12:53 ` [PATCH net-next v4 4/4] net: phy: add Rust Asix PHY driver FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-14  6:01   ` FUJITA Tomonori

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