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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Heinrich Schuchardt <heinrich.schuchardt@canonical.com>,
	E Shattow <e@freeshell.de>
Cc: soc@kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hal Feng <hal.feng@starfivetech.com>,
	Ilya Sorochan <k0tran@altlinux.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] ~RISC-V~Starfive devicetrees fixes for v7.0-rc6
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 09:19:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d7eb716d-9b9c-4474-a9ca-d44e96c46fc8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ec329b9-144f-4896-a89c-3af0b23e631e@canonical.com>

On 26/03/2026 16:44, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
>>
>>> I have done an ~80%+ analysis on Ghidra decompilation of the JH-7110
>>> BootROM, and openly invite anyone that would like to help get this
>>> effort to 100% is welcome to so that we may publish and refer to this
>>> for technical competence. I do not object to the community supporting
>>> this deprecated capability if there is any real documentation not based
>>> on rumors and memes; but no one has offered to do take a moment to do
>>> this most basic of fact finding. Evidently the StarFive maintainer(s)
>>> have refused to support this, GPL non-compliance persists and only a
>>> rough description from Hal has been written to the U-Boot developer mail
>>> list that does not match my analysis, all while complaining about the
>>> capability not being supported going forward.
>>>
>>> I object to this PR it is NAK from me on the basis of stuffing this in
>>> sideways without technical justification or review. Also I do object to
> 
> Concerning technical justification it is clear:
> 
> Distro images have been supplied with U-Boot on SD-card for years and 
> the recent work in Linux and U-Boot broke booting them. This needs to be 
> fixed.
> 
>>
>> The technical justification seemed to me to be multiple people saying "we
>> need this added so that u-boot can use the sd-card". The patch has been
>> on the list for over three weeks at this point, so there was definitely
>> opportunity to comment on it. I don't think I have been unreasonable
>> here. If current U-Boot needs it, then I'd still like to have it merged.
>> If you work pulls through and this becomes no-longer required, then I'd
>> be happy to take it back out again.
>>
>>> "riscv: dts: starfive: Milk-V Mars CM Lite broken-cd" as this goes the
>>> wrong way around, it does not describe the hardware; if some external
>>> carrier boards cannot deal with the capability of the Mars CM
>>> system-on-module having card detect line then that should be dealt with
>>> as a dtbo per-carrier board and not be replaced in the dts by a
>>> broken-cd, although at least we had this discussion and Conor made a
>>> decision with all the facts and discussion available.
>>>
> 
> As my patch points out the CD line is broken because it does not conform 
> to the standard established by Raspberry.

Initial E Shattow answer is not placed under specific commit, so I can
only guess that it is about "riscv: dts: starfive: Milk-V Mars CM Lite
broken-cd".

The commit touches only DTS, not DTSO, so how can you claim that a DTS
file change breaks some completely other board (Raspberry)?

This DTS file is nowhere included (and should not be).

Of course maybe the true question would be why anyone described a hat as
DTS file...

> 
> E. we know that by chance you have found a base board that ignores the 
> standard.
> 
> Your patch 4cce8b2503ab5 made my standard compliant baseboard unusable. 

DTS of some board is a final product, so it cannot be applied to a
baseboard, that's pretty messed DTS tree...

> My patch in the pull request does not stop your board from booting but 
> re-enables mine.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Heinrich


Best regards,
Krzysztof

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-27  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-26 11:13 [GIT PULL] ~RISC-V~Starfive devicetrees fixes for v7.0-rc6 Conor Dooley
2026-03-26 14:36 ` E Shattow
2026-03-26 15:14   ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-26 15:44     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2026-03-26 19:27       ` Ilya Sorochan
2026-03-27  4:53         ` E Shattow
2026-03-27  8:52           ` Ilya Sorochan
2026-03-28 10:07             ` E Shattow
2026-03-30  9:24               ` Ilya Sorochan
2026-03-27  8:19       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-03-27  9:45         ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-27  9:49           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-27 10:50             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-27 12:16               ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-28  4:22                 ` E Shattow

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