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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/12] mm: constify pagemap related test functions for improved const-correctness
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 17:52:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <001833dc-ee02-4bd3-8a37-820d0cd56be0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <925480c3-d0ff-4f24-ada0-966ad9a83080@suse.cz>

On 01.09.25 17:47, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 9/1/25 17:14, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 01, 2025 at 04:50:50PM +0200, Max Kellermann wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 4:25 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
>>> <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>> 1. (most useful) Const pointer (const <type> *<param>) means that the dereffed
>>>>     value is const, so *<param> = <val> or <param>-><field> = <val> are prohibited.
>>>
>>> Only this was what my initial patch was about.
>>
>> Right agreed then.
>>
>>>
>>>> 2. (less useful) We can't modify the actual pointer value either, so
>>>>     e.g. <param> = <new param> is prohibited.
>>>
>>> This wasn't my idea, it was Andrew Morton's idea, supported by Yuanchu Xie:
>>>   https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAJj2-QHVC0QW_4X95LLAnM=1g6apH==-OXZu65SVeBj0tSUcBg@mail.gmail.com/
>>
>> Andrew said:
>>
>> "Not that I'm suggesting that someone go in and make this change."
>>
>> And Yuanchu said:
>>
>> "Longer function readability would benefit from that, but it's IMO infeasible to
>> do so everywhere."
>>
>> (he also mentions it'd be good if gcc could wran on it).
>>
>> So this isn't quite true actually.
> 
> I understood it the same, that it would be nice if gcc treated incoming
> params (i.e. pointers, not pointed-to values) as const and warn otherwise,
> but not suggesting we should start doing that manually.
> 
> I personally agree that adding those extra "const" is of little value and
> makes the function definition lines longer and harder to read and so would
> rather not add those.
> 
> I mean we could first collectively decide (and that's not a review
> half-suggesting we do them) that we want them, and document that, but AFAIK
> that's not the case yet. While there's already an agreement that const
> pointed-to values is a good thing and nobody objects that.

Yeah, and discussed elsewhere in this series, it would also have to be 
clarified how to deal with the *const" (or const values in general) with 
function declaration vs. definition. I don't think we really have 
written-down rule for that yet.

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-01 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-01 12:30 [PATCH v5 00/12] mm: establish const-correctness for pointer parameters Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] mm: constify shmem related test functions for improved const-correctness Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 13:58   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] mm: constify pagemap " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:49   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:39     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 14:09   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 14:24   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 14:50     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 15:14       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 15:47         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-01 15:52           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-01 15:55             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] mm: constify zone " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:37   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] fs: constify mapping " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 13:51   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:40   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] mm: constify process_shares_mm() " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 14:46   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] mm, s390: constify mapping related test functions " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:54   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:47     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 15:02     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 15:11       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 15:22         ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 15:31           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] parisc: constify mmap_upper_limit() parameter " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:48     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] mm: constify arch_pick_mmap_layout() " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:58   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:49     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 15:06     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] mm: constify ptdesc_pmd_pts_count() and folio_get_private() Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:58   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:50   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] mm: constify various inline test functions for improved const-correctness Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 14:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 15:13     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] mm: constify assert/test functions in mm.h Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 14:06   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 15:17     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 15:25       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] mm: constify highmem related functions for improved const-correctness Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 14:51   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 13:44 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] mm: establish const-correctness for pointer parameters Christian Brauner
2025-09-01 14:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-02  2:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-02  8:15   ` David Hildenbrand

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