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From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for sampling
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 09:06:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250827080630.GC745921@e132581.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <983df32a-ba74-421d-bc20-06e778b4d2c9@arm.com>

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 04:53:51PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:

[...]

> > Genearlly, AUX events generate interrupts based on AUX ring buffer
> > watermark but not the period. Seems to me, it is correct to set the
> > PERF_PMU_CAP_SAMPLING flag for them.
> 
> This cap is given to drivers which handle event->attr.sample_period and call
> perf_event_overflow() - or in a few rare cases, perf_output_sample()
> directly - to do something meaningful with it, since the intent is to convey
> "I properly handle events for which is_sampling_event() is true". My
> understanding is that aux events are something else entirely, but I'm happy
> to be corrected.

If the discussion is based only on this patch, my understanding is
that the PERF_PMU_CAP_SAMPLING flag replaces the
PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT flag for checking whether a PMU event needs
to be re-enabled in perf_adjust_freq_unthr_context().

AUX events can trigger a large number of interrupts under certain
conditions (e.g., if we set a very small watermark). This is why I
conclude that we need to set the PERF_PMU_CAP_SAMPLING flag to ensure
that AUX events are re-enabled properly after throttling (see
perf_adjust_freq_unthr_events()).

> Otherwise, perhaps this suggests it deserves to be named a little more
> specifically for clarity, maybe PERF_CAP_SAMPLING_EVENTS?

Seems to me, the naming is not critical. If without setting the
PERF_PMU_CAP_SAMPLING flag, AUX events might lose chance to be
re-enabled after throttling.

Thanks,
Leo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-13 17:00 [PATCH 00/19] perf: Rework event_init checks Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 01/19] perf/arm-cmn: Fix event validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 10:46   ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 02/19] perf/hisilicon: Fix group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 11:15   ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 13:18     ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 14:35     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 15:31       ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 15:55         ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27 14:03         ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 03/19] perf/imx8_ddr: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 04/19] perf/starfive: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 05/19] iommu/vt-d: Fix perfmon " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 06/19] ARM: l2x0: Fix " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 07/19] ARM: imx: Fix MMDC PMU " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 08/19] perf/arm_smmu_v3: Improve " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 09/19] perf/qcom: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 10/19] perf/arm-ni: Improve event validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 11/19] perf/arm-cci: Tidy up " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 12/19] perf: Ignore event state for group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 15:32     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 18:48       ` Ian Rogers
2025-08-27  8:18         ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27 15:15           ` Ian Rogers
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 13/19] perf: Add helper for checking grouped events Robin Murphy
2025-08-14  5:43   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 14/19] perf: Clean up redundant group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 15/19] perf: Simplify " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 16/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for sampling Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 13:28     ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 16:35       ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:11   ` Leo Yan
2025-08-26 15:53     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-27  8:06       ` Leo Yan [this message]
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 17/19] perf: Retire PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 18/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for raw events Robin Murphy
2025-08-19 13:15   ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-20  8:09     ` Thomas Richter
2025-08-20 11:39       ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-21  2:53   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-26 13:43   ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 22:46     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-27  8:04       ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27  5:27     ` Thomas Richter
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 19/19] perf: Garbage-collect event_init checks Robin Murphy
2025-08-14  8:04   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-19  2:44   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-19 17:49     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-19 13:25   ` Robin Murphy

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