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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/12] mm, s390: constify mapping related test functions for improved const-correctness
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2025 17:31:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4597944e-a8f5-44df-adf3-558940e88598@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKPOu+8SdvDAcNS12TjHWq_QL6pXnw4Pnhrq2_4DgJg8ASc67A@mail.gmail.com>

On 01.09.25 17:22, Max Kellermann wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 5:11 PM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> Should this also be *const ?
>>>
>>> No. These are function protoypes. A "const" on a parameter value
>>> (pointer address, not pointed-to memory) makes no sense on a
>>> prototype.
>>
>> But couldn't you argue the same about variable names? In most (not all
>> :) ) we keep declaration + definition in sync. So thus my confusion.
> 
> Variable names in the prototypes have no effect either, but they serve
> as useful documentation.
> 
> Whereas the "const" on a parameter value documents nothing - it's an
> implementation detail whether the function would like to modify
> parameter values. That implementation detail has no effect for the
> caller.
> 
> Of course, we could have "const" in the prototype as well. This boils
> down to personal taste. It's not my taste (has no use, has no effect,
> documents nothing, only adds noise for no gain), so I didn't add it.
> If you prefer to have that, I'll leave my taste and home and add it,
> but only after you guys make up your minds about whether you want to
> have const parameters at all.

Valid points. The problem is that it could very soon become inconsistent.

For example, when I write a new function I usually just copy what I have
from the definition into the declaration.

For example, checkpatch complains about missing variable names and I 
think it complains when "extern" is used for functions.

If we were to decide to go that route (not keep them in perfect sync), I 
guess it would be reasonable to extend checkpatch to warn if "*const" is 
used in a declaration. (perl magic, no idea how hard that would be)

I'm sure there are false positives in the following:

$ git grep "\*const" *.h | grep -v inline | wc -l
403

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-01 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-01 12:30 [PATCH v5 00/12] mm: establish const-correctness for pointer parameters Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] mm: constify shmem related test functions for improved const-correctness Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 13:58   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] mm: constify pagemap " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:49   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:39     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 14:09   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 14:24   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 14:50     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 15:14       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 15:47         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-01 15:52           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 15:55             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] mm: constify zone " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:37   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] fs: constify mapping " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 13:51   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:40   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] mm: constify process_shares_mm() " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 14:46   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] mm, s390: constify mapping related test functions " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:54   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:47     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 15:02     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 15:11       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 15:22         ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 15:31           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] parisc: constify mmap_upper_limit() parameter " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:48     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] mm: constify arch_pick_mmap_layout() " Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:58   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:49     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 15:06     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] mm: constify ptdesc_pmd_pts_count() and folio_get_private() Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 13:58   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 14:50   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] mm: constify various inline test functions for improved const-correctness Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 14:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 15:13     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] mm: constify assert/test functions in mm.h Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 14:06   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 15:17     ` Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 15:25       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-01 12:30 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] mm: constify highmem related functions for improved const-correctness Max Kellermann
2025-09-01 14:51   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-01 13:44 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] mm: establish const-correctness for pointer parameters Christian Brauner
2025-09-01 14:32 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-02  2:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-02  8:15   ` David Hildenbrand

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