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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for sampling
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 17:35:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d6ac059-fc8f-4a5d-b49e-d02777c01cfb@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aK22izKE4r6wI_D9@J2N7QTR9R3>

On 2025-08-26 2:28 pm, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 03:08:06PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 06:01:08PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>> Sampling is inherently a feature for CPU PMUs, given that the thing
>>> to be sampled is a CPU context. These days, we have many more
>>> uncore/system PMUs than CPU PMUs, so it no longer makes much sense to
>>> assume sampling support by default and force the ever-growing majority
>>> of drivers to opt out of it (or erroneously fail to). Instead, let's
>>> introduce a positive opt-in capability that's more obvious and easier to
>>> maintain.
>>
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/perf_event.h b/include/linux/perf_event.h
>>> index 4d439c24c901..bf2cfbeabba2 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/perf_event.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/perf_event.h
>>> @@ -294,7 +294,7 @@ struct perf_event_pmu_context;
>>>   /**
>>>    * pmu::capabilities flags
>>>    */
>>> -#define PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT	0x0001
>>> +#define PERF_PMU_CAP_SAMPLING		0x0001
>>>   #define PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_NMI		0x0002
>>>   #define PERF_PMU_CAP_AUX_NO_SG		0x0004
>>>   #define PERF_PMU_CAP_EXTENDED_REGS	0x0008
>>> @@ -305,6 +305,7 @@ struct perf_event_pmu_context;
>>>   #define PERF_PMU_CAP_EXTENDED_HW_TYPE	0x0100
>>>   #define PERF_PMU_CAP_AUX_PAUSE		0x0200
>>>   #define PERF_PMU_CAP_AUX_PREFER_LARGE	0x0400
>>> +#define PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT	0x0800
>>
>> So NO_INTERRUPT was supposed to be the negative of your new SAMPLING
>> (and I agree with your reasoning).
>>
>> What I'm confused/curious about is why we retain NO_INTERRUPT?
> 
> I see from your other reply that you spotted the next patch does that.
> 
> For the sake of other reviewers or anyone digging through the git
> history it's probably worth adding a line to this commit message to say:
> 
> | A subsequent patch will remove PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT as this
> | requires some additional cleanup.

Yup, the main reason is the set of drivers getting the new cap is 
smaller than the set of drivers currently not rejecting sampling events, 
so I wanted it to be clearly visible in the patch. Indeed I shall 
clarify the relationship to NO_INTERRUPT in the commit message.

Thanks,
Robin.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-26 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-13 17:00 [PATCH 00/19] perf: Rework event_init checks Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 01/19] perf/arm-cmn: Fix event validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 10:46   ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 02/19] perf/hisilicon: Fix group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 11:15   ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 13:18     ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 14:35     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 15:31       ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 15:55         ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27 14:03         ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 03/19] perf/imx8_ddr: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 04/19] perf/starfive: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 05/19] iommu/vt-d: Fix perfmon " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 06/19] ARM: l2x0: Fix " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 07/19] ARM: imx: Fix MMDC PMU " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 08/19] perf/arm_smmu_v3: Improve " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 09/19] perf/qcom: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 10/19] perf/arm-ni: Improve event validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 11/19] perf/arm-cci: Tidy up " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 12/19] perf: Ignore event state for group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 15:32     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 18:48       ` Ian Rogers
2025-08-27  8:18         ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27 15:15           ` Ian Rogers
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 13/19] perf: Add helper for checking grouped events Robin Murphy
2025-08-14  5:43   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 14/19] perf: Clean up redundant group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 15/19] perf: Simplify " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 16/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for sampling Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 13:28     ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 16:35       ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2025-08-26 13:11   ` Leo Yan
2025-08-26 15:53     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-27  8:06       ` Leo Yan
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 17/19] perf: Retire PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 18/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for raw events Robin Murphy
2025-08-19 13:15   ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-20  8:09     ` Thomas Richter
2025-08-20 11:39       ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-21  2:53   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-26 13:43   ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 22:46     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-27  8:04       ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27  5:27     ` Thomas Richter
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 19/19] perf: Garbage-collect event_init checks Robin Murphy
2025-08-14  8:04   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-19  2:44   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-19 17:49     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-19 13:25   ` Robin Murphy

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