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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/19] perf/hisilicon: Fix group validation
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 14:18:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aK20GP5g1iu9DGrQ@J2N7QTR9R3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aK2XS_GhLw1EQ2ml@J2N7QTR9R3>

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 12:15:23PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 06:00:54PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > The group validation logic shared by the HiSilicon HNS3/PCIe drivers is
> > a bit off, in that given a software group leader, it will consider that
> > event *in place of* the actual new event being opened. At worst this
> > could theoretically allow an unschedulable group if the software event
> > config happens to look like one of the hardware siblings.
> > 
> > The uncore framework avoids that particular issue,
> 
> What is "the uncore framework"? I'm not sure exactly what you're
> referring to, nor how that composes with the problem described above.
> 
> > but all 3 also share the common issue of not preventing racy access to
> > the sibling list,
> 
> Can you please elaborate on this racy access to the silbing list? I'm
> not sure exactly what you're referring to.

Ah, I think you're referring to the issue in:

  https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/Zg0l642PgQ7T3a8Z@FVFF77S0Q05N/

... where when creatign a new event which is its own group leader,
lockdep_assert_event_ctx(event) fires in for_each_sibling_event(),
because the new event's context isn't locked...

> > diff --git a/drivers/perf/hisilicon/hisi_uncore_pmu.c b/drivers/perf/hisilicon/hisi_uncore_pmu.c
> > index a449651f79c9..3c531b36cf25 100644
> > --- a/drivers/perf/hisilicon/hisi_uncore_pmu.c
> > +++ b/drivers/perf/hisilicon/hisi_uncore_pmu.c
> > @@ -101,26 +101,17 @@ static bool hisi_validate_event_group(struct perf_event *event)
> >  	/* Include count for the event */
> >  	int counters = 1;
> >  
> > -	if (!is_software_event(leader)) {
> > -		/*
> > -		 * We must NOT create groups containing mixed PMUs, although
> > -		 * software events are acceptable
> > -		 */
> > -		if (leader->pmu != event->pmu)
> > -			return false;
> > +	if (leader == event)
> > +		return true;

... and hence bailing out here avoids that?

It's not strictly "racy access to the sibling list", becuase there's
nothing else accessing the list; it's just that this is the simplest way
to appease lockdep while avoiding false negatives.

It'd probably be better to say something like "the common issue of
calling for_each_sibling_event() when initialising a new group leader",
and maybe to spell that out a bit.

Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-26 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-13 17:00 [PATCH 00/19] perf: Rework event_init checks Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 01/19] perf/arm-cmn: Fix event validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 10:46   ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 02/19] perf/hisilicon: Fix group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 11:15   ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 13:18     ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2025-08-26 14:35     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 15:31       ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 15:55         ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27 14:03         ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 03/19] perf/imx8_ddr: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 04/19] perf/starfive: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 05/19] iommu/vt-d: Fix perfmon " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 06/19] ARM: l2x0: Fix " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 07/19] ARM: imx: Fix MMDC PMU " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 08/19] perf/arm_smmu_v3: Improve " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 09/19] perf/qcom: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 10/19] perf/arm-ni: Improve event validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 11/19] perf/arm-cci: Tidy up " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 12/19] perf: Ignore event state for group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 15:32     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 18:48       ` Ian Rogers
2025-08-27  8:18         ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27 15:15           ` Ian Rogers
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 13/19] perf: Add helper for checking grouped events Robin Murphy
2025-08-14  5:43   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 14/19] perf: Clean up redundant group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 15/19] perf: Simplify " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 16/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for sampling Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 13:28     ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 16:35       ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:11   ` Leo Yan
2025-08-26 15:53     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-27  8:06       ` Leo Yan
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 17/19] perf: Retire PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 18/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for raw events Robin Murphy
2025-08-19 13:15   ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-20  8:09     ` Thomas Richter
2025-08-20 11:39       ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-21  2:53   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-26 13:43   ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 22:46     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-27  8:04       ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27  5:27     ` Thomas Richter
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 19/19] perf: Garbage-collect event_init checks Robin Murphy
2025-08-14  8:04   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-19  2:44   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-19 17:49     ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-19 13:25   ` Robin Murphy

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