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From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <davidhildenbrandkernel@gmail.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/12] mm: introduce generic lazy_mmu helpers
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2025 15:34:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c764489e-0626-4a50-87b5-39e15d9db733@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71418b31-aedb-4600-9558-842515dd6c44@arm.com>

>>   #ifndef pte_batch_hint
>> diff --git a/mm/kasan/shadow.c b/mm/kasan/shadow.c
>> index 5d2a876035d6..c49b029d3593 100644
>> --- a/mm/kasan/shadow.c
>> +++ b/mm/kasan/shadow.c
>> @@ -305,7 +305,7 @@ static int kasan_populate_vmalloc_pte(pte_t *ptep, unsigned long addr,
>>   	pte_t pte;
>>   	int index;
>>   
>> -	arch_leave_lazy_mmu_mode();
>> +	lazy_mmu_mode_pause();
> 
> I wonder if there really are use cases that *require* pause/resume? I think
> these kasan cases could be correctly implemented using a new nest level instead?
> Are there cases where the effects really need to be immediate or do the effects
> just need to be visible when you get to where the resume is?
> 
> If the latter, that could just be turned into a nested disable (e.g. a flush).
> In this case, there is only 1 PTE write so no benefit, but I wonder if other
> cases may have more PTE writes that could then still be batched. It would be
> nice to simplify the API by removing pause/resume if we can?

It has clear semantics, clearer than some nest-disable IMHO.

Maybe you can elaborate how you would change ("simplify") the API in 
that regard? What would the API look like?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-07 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-29 10:08 [PATCH v4 00/12] Nesting support for lazy MMU mode Kevin Brodsky
2025-10-29 10:08 ` [PATCH v4 01/12] powerpc/64s: Do not re-activate batched TLB flush Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-01 12:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-11-05  2:46   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-11-06 10:29     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-08  0:35       ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-11-10 13:18         ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-07 12:25   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-07 12:28     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-10-29 10:08 ` [PATCH v4 02/12] x86/xen: simplify flush_lazy_mmu() Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-01 12:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-11-03 18:06     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-07 12:31   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-10 10:36     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-11 10:08       ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-07 15:45   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-10-29 10:09 ` [PATCH v4 03/12] powerpc/mm: implement arch_flush_lazy_mmu_mode() Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-01 12:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-11-05  3:15   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-11-05  9:49     ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-11-06 10:31       ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-10-29 10:09 ` [PATCH v4 04/12] sparc/mm: " Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-01 12:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-29 10:09 ` [PATCH v4 05/12] mm: introduce CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_LAZY_MMU_MODE Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-01 12:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-11-05  4:40   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-11-06 10:33     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-07 13:56   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-10 10:37     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-10-29 10:09 ` [PATCH v4 06/12] mm: introduce generic lazy_mmu helpers Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-01 12:18   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-11-07 14:26   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-07 14:34     ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-11-07 15:22       ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-10  8:11         ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-11-10  9:19           ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-11  8:01             ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-11-11 12:16               ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-10 10:45     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-10-29 10:09 ` [PATCH v4 07/12] mm: enable lazy_mmu sections to nest Kevin Brodsky
2025-10-29 16:41   ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-10-30 10:28     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-10-30 16:34       ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-11-01 12:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-11-03 18:08     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-05  8:49   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-11-05 16:12     ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-11-06 10:51       ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-06 15:33         ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-11-07 10:16           ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-06 16:32       ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-11-06 17:01         ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-11-07 11:13         ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-07 14:59   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-10 10:47     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-11 10:24       ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-11 15:56         ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-11 17:03           ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-12 10:42             ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-12 13:57               ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-10-29 10:09 ` [PATCH v4 08/12] arm64: mm: replace TIF_LAZY_MMU with in_lazy_mmu_mode() Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-03 16:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-11-03 18:25     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-07 15:28   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-10-29 10:09 ` [PATCH v4 09/12] powerpc/mm: replace batch->active " Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-03 16:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-11-04 11:33     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-05  9:40   ` Ritesh Harjani
2025-10-29 10:09 ` [PATCH v4 10/12] sparc/mm: " Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-03 16:11   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-10-29 10:09 ` [PATCH v4 11/12] x86/xen: use lazy_mmu_state when context-switching Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-03 16:15   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-03 18:29     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-03 19:23       ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2025-11-04 11:28         ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-10-29 10:09 ` [PATCH v4 12/12] mm: bail out of lazy_mmu_mode_* in interrupt context Kevin Brodsky
2025-11-07 15:42   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-11-10 10:48     ` Kevin Brodsky

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