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From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Christian Loehle'" <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
	"'Sergey Senozhatsky'" <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: "'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"'Harshvardhan Jha'" <harshvardhan.j.jha@oracle.com>,
	"'Sasha Levin'" <sashal@kernel.org>,
	"'Greg Kroah-Hartman'" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>, <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	"'Daniel Lezcano'" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: RE: Performance regressions introduced via Revert "cpuidle: menu: Avoid discarding useful information" on 5.15 LTS
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 20:27:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <001f01dc9b0e$c6e89150$54b9b3f0$@telus.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <946c9ff1-a0cf-4faa-aeb9-405f89121b81@arm.com>

On 2026.02.10 00:57 Christian Loehle wrote:
> On 2/10/26 08:02, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
>> On (26/02/05 07:15), Christian Loehle wrote:
>> [..]
>>> @Doug given this is on Chromebooks base=84.5 and revert=59.5 doesn't necessarily mean
>>> 29.6% decrease in system performance in a traditional throughput sense.
>>> The "benchmark" might me measuring dropped frames, user input latency or what have you.
>>> Nonetheless @Sergey do feel free to expand.
>> 
>> I'm not on the performance team and I don't define those metrics, so
>> I can't really comment.  But frame drops during Google Docs scrolling,
>> for instance, or typing is a user visible regression, that people tend
>> to notice.
>
> Yeah I guess that was my point already, i.e. it isn't implausible that
> e.g. a frequency reduction from 2.2GHz to 2.0GHz (-10%) might result in
> double the number of dropped frames (= score reduction of 50%).
> Everything just an example but don't be thrown off by the 29.6% reduction in
> score and expect to go looking for -29.6% cpu frequency (like you would expect
> for many purely cpubound benchmarks).

Thanks for the inputs. Agreed.
In my defense, I was just attempting to extract whatever I could from
the very limited data we had.

... Doug



  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-11  4:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-03 16:18 Performance regressions introduced via Revert "cpuidle: menu: Avoid discarding useful information" on 5.15 LTS Harshvardhan Jha
2025-12-03 16:44 ` Christian Loehle
2025-12-03 22:30   ` Doug Smythies
2025-12-08 11:33     ` Harshvardhan Jha
2025-12-08 12:47       ` Christian Loehle
2026-01-13  7:06         ` Harshvardhan Jha
2026-01-13 14:13           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-01-13 14:18             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-01-14  4:28               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-14  4:49                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-14  5:15                   ` Tomasz Figa
2026-01-14 20:07                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-01-29 10:23                       ` Harshvardhan Jha
2026-01-29 22:47                   ` Doug Smythies
2026-01-27 15:45         ` Harshvardhan Jha
2026-01-28  5:06           ` Doug Smythies
2026-01-28 23:53             ` Doug Smythies
2026-01-29 22:27               ` Doug Smythies
2026-01-30 19:28                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-02-01 19:20                   ` Christian Loehle
2026-02-02 17:31                     ` Harshvardhan Jha
2026-02-03  9:07                       ` Christian Loehle
2026-02-03  9:16                         ` Harshvardhan Jha
2026-02-03  9:31                           ` Christian Loehle
2026-02-03 10:22                             ` Harshvardhan Jha
2026-02-03 10:30                               ` Christian Loehle
2026-02-03 16:45                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-02-05  0:45                               ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-05  2:37                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-02-05  5:18                                   ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-10  9:17                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-02-11  4:27                                       ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-05  7:15                                   ` Christian Loehle
2026-02-10  8:02                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-02-10  8:57                                       ` Christian Loehle
2026-02-11  4:27                                         ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2026-02-05  5:02                                 ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-10  9:33                                   ` Xueqin Luo
2026-02-10 10:04                                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-02-10 14:24                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-02-11  1:34                                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-02-11  4:17                                           ` Doug Smythies
2026-02-11  8:58                                         ` Xueqin Luo
2026-02-10 14:20                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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