From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:02:18 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1466810760.5394.1479394938124.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161117095011.1857bca5@gandalf.local.home>
----- On Nov 17, 2016, at 9:50 AM, rostedt rostedt@goodmis.org wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 13:54:27 +0000 (UTC)
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>
>
>> >> >
>> >> > Acked-by: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > But I'm afraid, in the future, tick_nohz_full will become a default y
>> >> > feature. thus it makes sys_membarrier() always disabled. we might
>> >> > need a new MEMBARRIER_CMD_XXX to handle it?
>> >>
>> >> This may require that we send an IPI to nohz_full CPUs, which will
>> >> disturb them real-time wise. Any better ideas ?
>> >
>> > Restrict the IPIs to CPUs running the process executing the
>> > sys_membarrier() system call. This would mean that CPUs only
>> > are interrupted by their own application's request.
>>
>> This would break use-cases of cross-process shared memory. :-(
>
> Perhaps make this an opt in. That is, all processes that want to be
> affected by this can call this function with some flag that sets a flag
> in tasks struct. And have that process get an IPI even in no-hz-full
> mode if it asked to do it.
That's an interesting approach. I would be tempted to give it a
per-thread (rather than per-process) scope.
E.g., a thread could do the following to ask to be
interrupted by IPIs:
membarrier(MEMBARRIER_CMD_REGISTER_EXPEDITED, 0)
and could unregister with:
membarrier(MEMBARRIER_CMD_UNREGISTER_EXPEDITED, 0)
We can then keep a per-thread refcount internally.
(not sure the "EXPEDITED" is the right word there...
do we want it to be "NOHZ_FULL" instead ?)
Then in membarrier(MEMBARRIER_CMD_SHARED, 0), for each
nohz_full cpu, we grab the rq lock, and only send an IPI
if the running thread is registered as "expedited".
Thoughts ?
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-17 17:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-03 16:29 [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-03 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-07 17:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-07 18:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-07 18:10 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-07 20:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-08 11:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-12 17:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 6:51 ` Lai Jiangshan
2016-11-17 11:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-17 13:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 13:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-11-17 14:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 14:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-17 15:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2016-11-17 15:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-17 16:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-17 13:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
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