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From: Wolfgang Walter <wolfgang.walter@stwm.de>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 3.3.x: e1000 and ixgbe hang
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 00:59:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201205100059.04723.wolfgang.walter@stwm.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120509.154558.1469429813580317150.davem@davemloft.net>

On Wednesday 09 May 2012, David Miller wrote:
> From: Wolfgang Walter <wolfgang.walter@stwm.de>
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 18:57:13 +0200
> 
> > But when we are at it: I think that when a bug in a stable kernel is
> > found and the final fix is known it is bad practice to hord that
> > patch till submission without letting stable@ know about it.
> 
> I think you have no idea what goes into vetting patches for -stable.

I can imagine that very well. I wrote and manage a bunch of larger patches 
against wine vanilla for us and to port them regularly to newer versions.

> 
> It can take me days to put together a series, and also I time my
> -stable submissions with when Linus pulls my 'net' bug fixes into his
> tree since a part of the -stable requirements is presence in Linus's
> tree.

I know.

> 
> I therefore batch, because bleeding out individual fixes one by one to
> -stable rarely, if ever, makes sense.

I understand that and as I sad it was not my intention to question that.

> 
> And another part of what goes into vetting a patch is time.  The
> longer a patch sits in a non-stable tree getting tested, the more
> likely any unwanted bugs and side effects will be caught before the
> patch goes into -stable.
> 
> And finally I am under no obligation whatsoever to post some kind of
> status report to -stable every few days saying when I'll do this or
> that.
> 

I didn't say that you should do that.

I just don't see the point why I should not send a mail to stable@. It 
documented that there is a known problem in 3.3.5, the fix for it and that you 
already aware of it and will take care to get it into stable. Nobody had 
reported that on stable@.

I mentioned your mail not to blame you but so nobody thinks I want du submit 
it directly. Everybody reading your mail I linked to could see that you wrote 
it May 1st and therefor could not be in 3.3.5.

But I think it would have been good if someone (not you) had sent a mail as 
early as 2012-04-20 to stable@ so that others could find the solution more 
easily.


Regards,
-- 
Wolfgang Walter
Studentenwerk M�nchen
Anstalt des �ffentlichen Rechts

      reply	other threads:[~2012-05-09 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <201205082330.12831.wolfgang.walter@stwm.de>
     [not found] ` <20120508215645.GA22200@kroah.com>
2012-05-09  9:07   ` 3.3.x: e1000 and ixgbe hang Wolfgang Walter
2012-05-09 16:05     ` David Miller
2012-05-09 16:57       ` Wolfgang Walter
2012-05-09 18:07         ` Greg KH
2012-05-09 19:45         ` David Miller
2012-05-09 22:59           ` Wolfgang Walter [this message]

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