From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:24:18 -0700 From: Sarah Sharp To: Al Viro Cc: Stefano Stabellini , Felipe Contreras , Steven Rostedt , CAI Qian , David Lang , ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , Darren Hart , Olivier Galibert , stable , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Willy Tarreau , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML Message-ID: <20130717222418.GG17906@xanatos> References: <20130716231217.GL4994@xanatos> <51E5D7C8.5000306@gmail.com> <1374018809.2249.29.camel@leira.trondhjem.org> <1000066089.1803398.1374046596236.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <20130717144849.GB16513@xanatos> <1374073771.6458.143.camel@gandalf.local.home> <20130717184244.GU4165@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130717184244.GU4165@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 07:42:44PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:56:16PM +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > > Abuse is never justified, I hope that's clear for everybody. > > Depends on details of your definition of abuse. > > > So we are down to the definition of verbal abuse. > > The Oxford dictionary gives me: > > > > "speak to (someone) in an insulting and offensive way" > > Insufficient details to tell if the statement above is correct. > Insulting and offensive to *whom*? It's not helpful to look at a dictionary definition of verbal abuse, because it's much too short. Here's a much longer description of verbally abusive behaviors: http://outofthefog.net/CommonBehaviors/VerbalAbuse.html Key ones that apply to LKML communications: belittlement, demeaning statements, hysteria, name-calling, raging and violent statements, and mocking sarcasm. Sarah Sharp