Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review

Rogelio Serrano
2013-07-23T08:26:37Z

Hi Sarah,

kinda reminds me of... baboons... its natural among mammals i guess...

Why hierarchy creates a destructive force within the human psyche (by
dr. Robert Sapolsky)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4UMyTnlaMY&feature=share

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Sarah Sharp
<sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:17:08 +0200, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I tend to hold things off after -rc4 because you scare me more than Greg
>> > > does ;-)
>> >
>> > Have you guys *seen* Greg? The guy is a freakish giant. He *should*
>> > scare you. He might squish you without ever even noticing.
>>
>> Greg might be a giant and he might squish people without ever even
>> noticing, but that's just a grave, deadly physical threat no real kernel
>> hacker ever feels threatened by. (Not much can hurt us deep in our dark
>> basements after all, except maybe earthquakes, gamma ray eruptions and Mom
>> trying to clean up around the computers.)
>>
>> So Greg, if you want it all to change, create some _real_ threat: be frank
>> with contributors and sometimes swear a bit. That will cut your mailqueue
>> in half, promise!
>
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 08:22:27 -0700, Linus wrote:
>> Greg, the reason you get a lot of stable patches seems to be that you
>> make it easy to act as a door-mat. Clearly at least some people say "I
>> know this patch isn't important enough to send to Linus, but I know Greg
>> will silently accept it after the fact, so I'll just wait and mark it
>> for stable".
>>
>> You may need to learn to shout at people.
>
> Seriously, guys? Is this what we need in order to get improve -stable?
> Linus Torvalds is advocating for physical intimidation and violence.
> Ingo Molnar and Linus are advocating for verbal abuse.
>
> Not *fucking* cool. Violence, whether it be physical intimidation,
> verbal threats or verbal abuse is not acceptable. Keep it professional
> on the mailing lists.
>
> Let's discuss this at Kernel Summit where we can at least yell at each
> other in person. Yeah, just try yelling at me about this. I'll roar
> right back, louder, for all the people who lose their voice when they
> get yelled at by top maintainers. I won't be the nice girl anymore.
>
> Sarah Sharp
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