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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	lwn@lwn.net, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Proposed stable release changes
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:24:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130821052424.GE16424@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130820231232.GB703@kroah.com>

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 04:12:32PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:58:15AM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > Hi Greg,
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:40:32PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > Given that I had to just revert a patch in the recent stable releases
> > > that didn't get enough time to "bake" in Linus's tree (or in -next), I
> > > figured it was worth discussing some possible changes with how "fast" I
> > > pick up patches for stable releases.
> > > 
> > > So, how about this proposal:
> > > 
> > > - I will wait for a -rc to come out with the patch in it before putting
> > >   it into a stable release, unless:
> > > 	- the maintainer ACKs it, or sends it directly (like DaveM does
> > > 	  for networking patches)
> > > 	- I have seen enough discussion about a patch to show that it
> > > 	  really does fix something / is good / doesn't cause problems.
> > > 	- obviously safe, i.e. "add a device id" type thing.
> > > 
> > > Given that we have -rc releases every week, except for the initial -rc1
> > > release, I don't think this will really cause any major delays.
> > 
> > In the last discussion you initiated on the subject, I proposed something
> > even more conservative which was the same as above except instead of
> > "wait for a -rc", it was "wait for rc1 after a full release containing
> > the patch", unless one of the conditions you proposed, or another one
> > which would be a tag "urgent" or something like this in the patch.
> 
> Waiting 3 months is too long, in my opinion, sorry.

I meant only for the non-important ones. Their authors will qualify the
ones that are important and must not wait. The same way as now many patches
are correctly tagged "cc: stable", I suspect that we could end up with maybe
80% of patches tagged as "must not wait", and the remaining 20% would indeed
wait up to 3 months, but if their authors think they should wait maybe we
should trust them.

Willy


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-21  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-20 22:40 Proposed stable release changes Greg KH
2013-08-20 22:58 ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-20 23:12   ` Greg KH
2013-08-20 23:57     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-21  5:24     ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2013-08-20 23:04 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2013-08-20 23:12   ` Greg KH
2013-08-20 23:11 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-20 23:17   ` Greg KH
2013-08-21  0:11     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-21  0:42       ` Greg KH
2013-08-20 23:40 ` Josh Boyer
2013-08-20 23:57   ` Greg KH
2013-08-21  0:41     ` Josh Boyer
2013-08-21  0:49       ` Greg KH
2013-08-21  1:03         ` Josh Boyer
2013-08-21  1:11           ` Guenter Roeck
2013-08-21 18:15           ` Greg KH
2013-08-21  5:38         ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-21 13:37           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-21 17:23             ` Jochen Striepe
2013-08-21 17:58               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-21 20:07                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-21 20:16                   ` Greg KH
2013-08-21 21:00                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-21 13:42       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-21 14:17         ` Willy Tarreau
2013-08-21 14:54           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-24 18:45             ` Stefan Richter
2013-08-21 13:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-21 17:08   ` Greg KH
2013-08-21 18:20 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-21 18:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-21 20:00     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-21 20:54       ` Tony Luck
2013-08-22  8:57         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-22 10:59         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22  0:05     ` Stephen Rothwell

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