From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Patrick McLean <chutzpah@gentoo.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
Thorsten Leemhuis <regressions@leemhuis.info>
Subject: Re: [nfsd4] potentially hardware breaking regression in 4.14-rc and 4.13.11
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 02:32:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171111023227.GI21978@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171111011306.GA30259@fieldses.org>
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 08:13:06PM -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 03:26:27PM -0800, Patrick McLean wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2017-11-10 10:42 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Patrick McLean <chutzpah@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Something must have changed since 4.13.8 to trigger this though.
> > >
> > > Arnd pointed to some commits that might be relevant for the cp210x
> > > module, but those are all already in 4.13.8, so if 4.13.8 really is
> > > rock solid for you, I don't think that's it.
> > >
> > > I really don't see anything that looks even half-way suspicious in
> > > that 4.13.8..11 range. But as mentioned, compiler interactions can be
> > > _really_ subtle.
> > >
> > > And hey, it can be a real kernel bug too, that just happens to be
> > > exposed by RANDSTRUCT, so a bisect really would be very nice.
> >
> > I am working on bisecting the issue now, but I think I have some more
> > evidence pointing to a compiler issue related to RANDSTRUCT. There are
> > actually 3 issues that we have seen. Sometimes we get the null pointer
> > deref in the initial message, sometimes we get the GPF, and sometimes we
> > see an issue where the NFS clients see all files as root-owned
> > directories.
>
> That suggests that stat.uid is 0 and stat.mode & S_IFMT is 0040000 in
> the stat structure that nfsd passed to vfs_getattr().
>
> No idea what sort of information is useful when tracking down this kind
> of bug, but you could also run wireshark and take a look at the server's
> GETATTR replies to see if there's some other corruption.
FWIW, having looked at some of the __bugger_layout users... Compiler bugs
aside,
* use in struct {dentry,inode,mount,block_device} has to go - cache
use patterns at hash lookups are _not_ something to play with like that.
* struct file_lock and struct super_block - ditto, only it's not
hash lookups that hurt here. struct vm_area_struct, while we are at it.
* struct group_info - Cthulhu's pus-leaking warts, what's the point
randomizing _that_? No, really - here's the damn thing in all its glory:
struct group_info {
atomic_t usage;
int ngroups;
kgid_t gid[0];
} __randomize_layout;
I really hope that plugin does *not* try to move the ->gid[] anywhere...
Which leaves us a choice between putting ->usage first or second. Sure,
every bit helps, but... even for security theatre that looks a bit too
pathetic.
* struct vfsmount. Wow. All of log2(3!) bits. Congratulations.
At least that's better than struct path. Oh, wait - they'd done struct path
as well...
What the hell had they been doing? Muscarine old-fashioned way? Looks like
a mix of pointless and truly dangerous. And then there are compiler bugs and
the charming effect on reproducibility...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-11 2:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-09 0:43 [nfsd4] potentially hardware breaking regression in 4.14-rc and 4.13.11 Patrick McLean
2017-11-09 2:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-09 3:45 ` Al Viro
2017-11-09 19:34 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-09 19:38 ` Al Viro
2017-11-09 19:42 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-09 19:37 ` Al Viro
2017-11-09 19:51 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-09 20:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-09 21:16 ` Al Viro
2017-11-10 1:58 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-10 13:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-11-10 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-10 23:26 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-11 0:27 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-11 2:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-11 16:13 ` Kees Cook
2017-11-11 17:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-13 22:48 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-17 0:54 ` Kees Cook
2017-11-17 19:03 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-17 21:26 ` Kees Cook
2017-11-18 0:27 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-18 0:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-18 1:54 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-18 5:14 ` Kees Cook
2017-11-18 5:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-18 8:20 ` Kees Cook
2017-11-11 1:13 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-11-11 2:32 ` Al Viro [this message]
2017-11-10 1:47 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-09 20:47 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-11-09 23:07 ` Patrick McLean
2017-11-13 22:59 ` bit tweaks [was: Re: [nfsd4] potentially hardware breaking regression in 4.14-rc and 4.13.11] Rasmus Villemoes
2017-11-13 23:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-13 23:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-11 2:47 ` [nfsd4] potentially hardware breaking regression in 4.14-rc and 4.13.11 Alan Cox
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