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From: Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Sebastian Gottschall <s.gottschall@dd-wrt.com>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, Harsh Shandilya <msfjarvis@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 3.10.108 (EOL)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:46:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171117234620.064b6498@alans-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171115085024.GB24542@kroah.com>

> > i just wanted to throw some stones on the bloated kernel problem which is
> > increasing  
> 
> People used to be working on that, but then it seemed like the "size"
> got to a point that people were comfortable with it.  Are you sure that

There's also a lot of pushback to things that add a ton of ifdefs.

> just changing some build options would not make your image smaller?
> Letting people know sometime in the past few years that the kernel was
> getting "too big" for you would have been good to do :)

It's also an increasingly hard problem to deal with because the scale of
big machines means the algorithms themselves in a modern Linux OS just
don't make sense for a tiddly embedded router.

I know lots of people build them that way but if you compare it with one
of the more conservative *BSD builds you have to wonder why not use BSD
instead - especially with nanoBSD ?

(and BSD has the reverse problem - most BSD does not scale to a modern
bigger machine of course).

Alan
"1.2.13 was the last true Linux"  ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-17 23:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-04 23:06 Linux 3.10.108 (EOL) Willy Tarreau
     [not found] ` <CALpmF+EbmuxvNWiBccGgtw=xDEW1=2hvxfVNp_r4dfiSF2o1UQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-05  7:05   ` Willy Tarreau
2017-11-05  7:46   ` Willy Tarreau
2017-11-14 22:00     ` Sebastian Gottschall
2017-11-14 22:18       ` Willy Tarreau
2017-11-14 22:40         ` Sebastian Gottschall
2017-11-15  4:32           ` Willy Tarreau
2017-11-15  8:09             ` Sebastian Gottschall
2017-11-15  8:50               ` Greg KH
2017-11-17 23:46                 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2017-11-18  7:31                   ` Willy Tarreau
2017-11-20 15:46                     ` Alan Cox
2017-11-18  7:37                   ` Sebastian Gottschall

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