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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"KarimAllah Ahmed" <karahmed@amazon.de>,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	"Jim Mattson" <jmattson@google.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] KVM: x86: use native MSR ops for SPEC_CTRL
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 12:22:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180223172220.GK8252@char.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d66a2358-cfac-f441-3b59-e44674b6a792@redhat.com>

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:37:49AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 22/02/2018 18:07, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> >> Having a paravirt indirect call in the IBRS restore path is not a
> >> good idea, since we are trying to protect from speculative execution
> >> of bogus indirect branch targets.  It is also slower, so use
> >> native_wrmsrl on the vmentry path too.
> > But it gets replaced during patching. As in once the machine boots
> > the assembler changes from:
> > 
> > 	callq 	*0xfffflbah
> > 
> > to
> > 	wrmsr
> > 
> > ? I don't think you need this patch.
> 
> Why not be explicit?  According to the spec, PRED_CMD and SPEC_CTRL

Explicit is fine.

But I would recommend you change the commit message to say so, and
perhaps remove 'It is also slower' - as that is incorrect.

> should be passed down to the guest without interception so it's safe to
> do this.  On the other hand, especially with nested virtualization, I
> don't think you can absolutely guarantee that the paravirt call will be
> patched to rdmsr/wrmsr.

<scratches his head> If it is detected to be Xen PV, then yes
it will be a call to a function. But that won't help as Xen PV runs in
ring 3, so it has a whole bunch of other issues.

If it detects it as KVM or Xen HVM guest it will patch it with the default
- which is normal MSRs. Ditto for HyperV.

But <shrugs> no biggie - explicit is fine, just nagging on the commit
message could use a bit of expansion.

> Paolo
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-23 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-21 21:41 [PATCH 0/3] x86/pti: KVM: fixes and optimizations for IBRS Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-21 21:41 ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: x86: use native MSR ops for SPEC_CTRL Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-21 23:49   ` Jim Mattson
2018-02-22 17:07   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-02-23  9:37     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-23 17:22       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2018-02-23 17:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-23 17:55           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-02-21 21:41 ` [PATCH 2/3] KVM: nVMX: fix wrong condition for SPEC_CTRL and PRED_CMD MSRs Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-22  0:07   ` Jim Mattson
2018-02-22  9:39     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-21 21:41 ` [PATCH 3/3] KVM: VMX: mark RDMSR path as unlikely Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-22  0:25   ` Jim Mattson

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