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* [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/slab: Use memzero_explicit() in kzfree()
       [not found] <20200616015718.7812-1-longman@redhat.com>
@ 2020-06-16  1:57 ` Waiman Long
  2020-06-16  3:30   ` Eric Biggers
  2020-06-16  6:42   ` Michal Hocko
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Waiman Long @ 2020-06-16  1:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton, David Howells, Jarkko Sakkinen, James Morris,
	Serge E. Hallyn, Linus Torvalds, Joe Perches, Matthew Wilcox,
	David Rientjes
  Cc: Michal Hocko, Johannes Weiner, Dan Carpenter, David Sterba,
	Jason A . Donenfeld, linux-mm, keyrings, linux-kernel,
	linux-crypto, linux-pm, linux-stm32, linux-amlogic,
	linux-mediatek, linuxppc-dev, virtualization, netdev, linux-ppp,
	wireguard, linux-wireless, devel, linux-scsi, target-devel,
	linux-btrfs, linux-cifs, linux-fscrypt, ecryptfs, kasan-dev,
	linux-bluetooth, linux-wpan, linux-sctp, linux-nfs,
	tipc-discussion, linux-security-module, linux-integrity,
	Waiman Long, stable

The kzfree() function is normally used to clear some sensitive
information, like encryption keys, in the buffer before freeing it back
to the pool. Memset() is currently used for the buffer clearing. However,
it is entirely possible that the compiler may choose to optimize away the
memory clearing especially if LTO is being used. To make sure that this
optimization will not happen, memzero_explicit(), which is introduced
in v3.18, is now used in kzfree() to do the clearing.

Fixes: 3ef0e5ba4673 ("slab: introduce kzfree()")
Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
---
 mm/slab_common.c | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/mm/slab_common.c b/mm/slab_common.c
index 9e72ba224175..37d48a56431d 100644
--- a/mm/slab_common.c
+++ b/mm/slab_common.c
@@ -1726,7 +1726,7 @@ void kzfree(const void *p)
 	if (unlikely(ZERO_OR_NULL_PTR(mem)))
 		return;
 	ks = ksize(mem);
-	memset(mem, 0, ks);
+	memzero_explicit(mem, ks);
 	kfree(mem);
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL(kzfree);
-- 
2.18.1


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* Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/slab: Use memzero_explicit() in kzfree()
  2020-06-16  1:57 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/slab: Use memzero_explicit() in kzfree() Waiman Long
@ 2020-06-16  3:30   ` Eric Biggers
  2020-06-16 13:05     ` Waiman Long
  2020-06-16  6:42   ` Michal Hocko
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eric Biggers @ 2020-06-16  3:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Waiman Long
  Cc: Andrew Morton, David Howells, Jarkko Sakkinen, James Morris,
	Serge E. Hallyn, Linus Torvalds, Joe Perches, Matthew Wilcox,
	David Rientjes, Michal Hocko, Johannes Weiner, Dan Carpenter,
	David Sterba, Jason A . Donenfeld, linux-mm, keyrings,
	linux-kernel, linux-crypto, linux-pm, linux-stm32, linux-amlogic,
	linux-mediatek, linuxppc-dev, virtualization, netdev, linux-ppp,
	wireguard, linux-wireless, devel, linux-scsi, target-devel,
	linux-btrfs, linux-cifs, linux-fscrypt, ecryptfs, kasan-dev,
	linux-bluetooth, linux-wpan, linux-sctp, linux-nfs,
	tipc-discussion, linux-security-module, linux-integrity, stable

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 09:57:16PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> The kzfree() function is normally used to clear some sensitive
> information, like encryption keys, in the buffer before freeing it back
> to the pool. Memset() is currently used for the buffer clearing. However,
> it is entirely possible that the compiler may choose to optimize away the
> memory clearing especially if LTO is being used. To make sure that this
> optimization will not happen, memzero_explicit(), which is introduced
> in v3.18, is now used in kzfree() to do the clearing.
> 
> Fixes: 3ef0e5ba4673 ("slab: introduce kzfree()")
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
> ---
>  mm/slab_common.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/slab_common.c b/mm/slab_common.c
> index 9e72ba224175..37d48a56431d 100644
> --- a/mm/slab_common.c
> +++ b/mm/slab_common.c
> @@ -1726,7 +1726,7 @@ void kzfree(const void *p)
>  	if (unlikely(ZERO_OR_NULL_PTR(mem)))
>  		return;
>  	ks = ksize(mem);
> -	memset(mem, 0, ks);
> +	memzero_explicit(mem, ks);
>  	kfree(mem);
>  }
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(kzfree);

This is a good change, but the commit message isn't really accurate.  AFAIK, no
one has found any case where this memset() gets optimized out.  And even with
LTO, it would be virtually impossible due to all the synchronization and global
data structures that kfree() uses.  (Remember that this isn't the C standard
function "free()", so the compiler can't assign it any special meaning.)
Not to mention that LTO support isn't actually upstream yet.

I still agree with the change, but it might be helpful if the commit message
were honest that this is really a hardening measure and about properly conveying
the intent.  As-is this sounds like a critical fix, which might confuse people.

- Eric

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* Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/slab: Use memzero_explicit() in kzfree()
  2020-06-16  1:57 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/slab: Use memzero_explicit() in kzfree() Waiman Long
  2020-06-16  3:30   ` Eric Biggers
@ 2020-06-16  6:42   ` Michal Hocko
  2020-06-16  9:08     ` Dan Carpenter
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michal Hocko @ 2020-06-16  6:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Waiman Long
  Cc: Andrew Morton, David Howells, Jarkko Sakkinen, James Morris,
	Serge E. Hallyn, Linus Torvalds, Joe Perches, Matthew Wilcox,
	David Rientjes, Johannes Weiner, Dan Carpenter, David Sterba,
	Jason A . Donenfeld, linux-mm, keyrings, linux-kernel,
	linux-crypto, linux-pm, linux-stm32, linux-amlogic,
	linux-mediatek, linuxppc-dev, virtualization, netdev, linux-ppp,
	wireguard, linux-wireless, devel, linux-scsi, target-devel,
	linux-btrfs, linux-cifs, linux-fscrypt, ecryptfs, kasan-dev,
	linux-bluetooth, linux-wpan, linux-sctp, linux-nfs,
	tipc-discussion, linux-security-module, linux-integrity, stable

On Mon 15-06-20 21:57:16, Waiman Long wrote:
> The kzfree() function is normally used to clear some sensitive
> information, like encryption keys, in the buffer before freeing it back
> to the pool. Memset() is currently used for the buffer clearing. However,
> it is entirely possible that the compiler may choose to optimize away the
> memory clearing especially if LTO is being used. To make sure that this
> optimization will not happen, memzero_explicit(), which is introduced
> in v3.18, is now used in kzfree() to do the clearing.
> 
> Fixes: 3ef0e5ba4673 ("slab: introduce kzfree()")
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>

Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>

Although I am not really sure this is a stable material. Is there any
known instance where the memset was optimized out from kzfree?

> ---
>  mm/slab_common.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/slab_common.c b/mm/slab_common.c
> index 9e72ba224175..37d48a56431d 100644
> --- a/mm/slab_common.c
> +++ b/mm/slab_common.c
> @@ -1726,7 +1726,7 @@ void kzfree(const void *p)
>  	if (unlikely(ZERO_OR_NULL_PTR(mem)))
>  		return;
>  	ks = ksize(mem);
> -	memset(mem, 0, ks);
> +	memzero_explicit(mem, ks);
>  	kfree(mem);
>  }
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(kzfree);
> -- 
> 2.18.1
> 

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/slab: Use memzero_explicit() in kzfree()
  2020-06-16  6:42   ` Michal Hocko
@ 2020-06-16  9:08     ` Dan Carpenter
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dan Carpenter @ 2020-06-16  9:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michal Hocko
  Cc: Waiman Long, Jason A . Donenfeld, linux-btrfs, Jarkko Sakkinen,
	David Sterba, David Howells, linux-mm, linux-sctp, keyrings,
	kasan-dev, linux-stm32, devel, linux-cifs, linux-scsi,
	James Morris, Matthew Wilcox, linux-wpan, David Rientjes,
	linux-pm, ecryptfs, linux-fscrypt, linux-mediatek, linux-amlogic,
	virtualization, linux-integrity, linux-nfs, Linus Torvalds,
	linux-wireless, linux-kernel, stable, linux-bluetooth,
	linux-security-module, target-devel, tipc-discussion,
	linux-crypto, Johannes Weiner, Joe Perches, Andrew Morton,
	linuxppc-dev, netdev, wireguard, linux-ppp

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 08:42:08AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 15-06-20 21:57:16, Waiman Long wrote:
> > The kzfree() function is normally used to clear some sensitive
> > information, like encryption keys, in the buffer before freeing it back
> > to the pool. Memset() is currently used for the buffer clearing. However,
> > it is entirely possible that the compiler may choose to optimize away the
> > memory clearing especially if LTO is being used. To make sure that this
> > optimization will not happen, memzero_explicit(), which is introduced
> > in v3.18, is now used in kzfree() to do the clearing.
> > 
> > Fixes: 3ef0e5ba4673 ("slab: introduce kzfree()")
> > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
> 
> Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> 
> Although I am not really sure this is a stable material. Is there any
> known instance where the memset was optimized out from kzfree?

I told him to add the stable.  Otherwise it will just get reported to
me again.  It's a just safer to backport it before we forget.

regards,
dan carpenter


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* Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/slab: Use memzero_explicit() in kzfree()
  2020-06-16  3:30   ` Eric Biggers
@ 2020-06-16 13:05     ` Waiman Long
  2020-06-16 15:46       ` David Howells
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Waiman Long @ 2020-06-16 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Biggers
  Cc: Andrew Morton, David Howells, Jarkko Sakkinen, James Morris,
	Serge E. Hallyn, Linus Torvalds, Joe Perches, Matthew Wilcox,
	David Rientjes, Michal Hocko, Johannes Weiner, Dan Carpenter,
	David Sterba, Jason A . Donenfeld, linux-mm, keyrings,
	linux-kernel, linux-crypto, linux-pm, linux-stm32, linux-amlogic,
	linux-mediatek, linuxppc-dev, virtualization, netdev, linux-ppp,
	wireguard, linux-wireless, devel, linux-scsi, target-devel,
	linux-btrfs, linux-cifs, linux-fscrypt, ecryptfs, kasan-dev,
	linux-bluetooth, linux-wpan, linux-sctp, linux-nfs,
	tipc-discussion, linux-security-module, linux-integrity, stable

On 6/15/20 11:30 PM, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 09:57:16PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> The kzfree() function is normally used to clear some sensitive
>> information, like encryption keys, in the buffer before freeing it back
>> to the pool. Memset() is currently used for the buffer clearing. However,
>> it is entirely possible that the compiler may choose to optimize away the
>> memory clearing especially if LTO is being used. To make sure that this
>> optimization will not happen, memzero_explicit(), which is introduced
>> in v3.18, is now used in kzfree() to do the clearing.
>>
>> Fixes: 3ef0e5ba4673 ("slab: introduce kzfree()")
>> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
>> Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
>> ---
>>   mm/slab_common.c | 2 +-
>>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/slab_common.c b/mm/slab_common.c
>> index 9e72ba224175..37d48a56431d 100644
>> --- a/mm/slab_common.c
>> +++ b/mm/slab_common.c
>> @@ -1726,7 +1726,7 @@ void kzfree(const void *p)
>>   	if (unlikely(ZERO_OR_NULL_PTR(mem)))
>>   		return;
>>   	ks = ksize(mem);
>> -	memset(mem, 0, ks);
>> +	memzero_explicit(mem, ks);
>>   	kfree(mem);
>>   }
>>   EXPORT_SYMBOL(kzfree);
> This is a good change, but the commit message isn't really accurate.  AFAIK, no
> one has found any case where this memset() gets optimized out.  And even with
> LTO, it would be virtually impossible due to all the synchronization and global
> data structures that kfree() uses.  (Remember that this isn't the C standard
> function "free()", so the compiler can't assign it any special meaning.)
> Not to mention that LTO support isn't actually upstream yet.
>
> I still agree with the change, but it might be helpful if the commit message
> were honest that this is really a hardening measure and about properly conveying
> the intent.  As-is this sounds like a critical fix, which might confuse people.

Yes, I agree that the commit log may look a bit scary. How about the 
following:

The kzfree() function is normally used to clear some sensitive
information, like encryption keys, in the buffer before freeing it back
to the pool. Memset() is currently used for buffer clearing. However
unlikely, there is still a non-zero probability that the compiler may
choose to optimize away the memory clearing especially if LTO is being
used in the future. To make sure that this optimization will never
happen, memzero_explicit(), which is introduced in v3.18, is now used
in kzfree() to future-proof it.

Cheers,
Longman


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* Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] mm/slab: Use memzero_explicit() in kzfree()
  2020-06-16 13:05     ` Waiman Long
@ 2020-06-16 15:46       ` David Howells
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: David Howells @ 2020-06-16 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Waiman Long
  Cc: Andrew Morton, ebiggers, David Howells, Jarkko Sakkinen,
	James Morris, Serge E. Hallyn, Linus Torvalds, Joe Perches,
	Matthew Wilcox, David Rientjes, Michal Hocko, Johannes Weiner,
	Dan Carpenter, David Sterba, Jason A . Donenfeld, linux-mm,
	keyrings, linux-kernel, linux-crypto, linux-pm, linux-stm32,
	linux-amlogic, linux-mediatek, linuxppc-dev, virtualization,
	netdev, linux-ppp, wireguard, linux-wireless, devel, linux-scsi,
	target-devel, linux-btrfs, linux-cifs, linux-fscrypt, ecryptfs,
	kasan-dev, linux-bluetooth, linux-wpan, linux-sctp, linux-nfs,
	tipc-discussion, linux-security-module, linux-integrity, stable

Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:

> The kzfree() function is normally used to clear some sensitive
> information, like encryption keys, in the buffer before freeing it back
> to the pool. Memset()

"memset()" is all lowercase.

> is currently used for buffer clearing. However unlikely, there is still a
> non-zero probability

I'd say "a possibility".

> that

and I'd move "in [the] future" here.

> the compiler may choose to optimize away the
> memory clearing especially if LTO is being used in the future. To make sure
> that this optimization will never happen

"in these cases"

> , memzero_explicit(), which is introduced in v3.18, is now used in

"instead of"?

> kzfree() to future-proof it.

Davod


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